PS Vita "Super Patch"

PoSTedUP · Apr 2, 2014

DrPinballs said:
Main patch notes said everything up to and including Pack 16 is patched. How do patched season 2 tables compare? How do tables past Pack 16 look (not related to the patch)?

to answer you question, flight2K seems like it playes the same, it might look a little sharper. going nuts looks sharper. and the ball movement is better, except when you drop down to one ball it now has frame stuttering issues (your last ball on table) which it never had that problem b4 the patch.

centaur they changed the ball speed, and sometimes the balls frames stutter when there are 4-5 balls on the table. their was nothing wrong with centaur b4 the patch, imo. they made it look better tho.

i dont see why they messed with what wasnt broken. i have both seasons on vita so if anyone has any questions i will DL the tabe to give you my opinion on it.

im afraid to spend $10 on the two new tables, id be pissed if they didnt work. they are $5 a piece...

PoSTedUP · Apr 2, 2014

Kratos3 said:
Pretty good. I just played Cactus Canyon for a bit and it looks much cleaner. It plays better too. No more annoying orbit collision issues. Centaur seemed OK to me. I wasn't a huge Centaur guy anyway. How is it different?

Firepower seems way faster! Did I see an animation on the star rollovers? The pop bumpers are more active as well. Again, more fine detail and better contrast on the playfield.

Space Shuttle looks great. The playfield seems like it has more fine detail.

The difference on CV is huge! Like CC and SS, it looks more colorful with much better detail and fine resolution.

BoP looks great! The right side zig-zagging return lane thing is more transparent now. The table is more colorful.

Basically, every table that got patched looks much better. Much more colorful, crisp, and they all play faster, more smoothly, and even the physics seem more realistic(not sure if that's real or it just seems better).

centaur is different bc its slower. it use to be fast like gorgar, flight 2k and space shuttle. maybe its closer to real life now, idk, but the balls stutter slightly when you have 4-5 on the table. its not hat big of deal. proof is that ive been trying to beat my 16M score for 5 months, the first game i played after the patch i got 22M and the second game i got 18M. that would be very unlikely for me if they didnt change it.

overall i am happy with the patch. i just bought black rose and fish tales on vita, ill give my opinion on them when im done playing them.

Kratos3 · Apr 2, 2014

Holy Hell, Firepower and Taxi are fast!

The lighting on Gorgar looks great, too!

PoSTedUP · Apr 2, 2014

ok, so, dont buy Black Rose it has ball frame issues on vita (unless you can tolerate that; i cant). and Fish Tales works perfectly (and is awesome, imo) on vita. shame that i spent my money on BR, would rather have gotten the new Zen soccer table and a $2 ball pack or game, instead.

Kratos3 · Apr 2, 2014

I thought I remember reading that Centaur is a slower table in real life.

PoSTedUP · Apr 2, 2014

Kratos3 said:
I thought I remember reading that Centaur is a slower table in real life.

maybe. ive watched a lot of real centaur on youtube (as i do a lot of tables) and its hard to say. it might be closer than what it was. i just discovered that blackhole now has ball frame issues, have you played it yet?

Kratos3 · Apr 2, 2014

PoSTedUP said:
maybe. ive watched a lot of real centaur on youtube (as i do a lot of tables) and its hard to say. it might be closer than what it was. i just discovered that blackhole now has ball frame issues, have you played it yet?

Just a little. I wanted to see if it had lighting like it does on PS3. I'm not sure if they changed the lighting too much. I didn't notice any frame rate issues, but also didn't play much.

PoSTedUP · Apr 2, 2014

Kratos3 said:
Just a little. I wanted to see if it had lighting like it does on PS3. I'm not sure if they changed the lighting too much. I didn't notice any frame rate issues, but also didn't play much.

they may have added some around the bumpers? not sure. Wh2o looks amazing and vibrant and with great lighting. ToTAN got a massive overhaul, more transparent ramps, better graphics and textures etc. nogoodgofers looks a lot better and finally plays nice. they didnt touch ToM, terminator and only added lighting to tee'doff. STnextgen looks a lot better.

they fixd everything and made everything look a lot better, except for black knight (looks better, didnt fix the ball frames totally). and they gave black hole ball frame issues, going nuts "a" ball frame issue (when you only have one ball left on the table). and my complaints with Centaur. but over all not a bad trade-off and im satisfied. except that black rose now has issues on launch. no one is perfect, but hopefully they fix them, along with BR, victory and cueballwiz. im not buying the next table packs unless i hear they dont have ball frame issues. that was and is my major complaint. ill let someone else be the guinea pig next time.

Shadowrider49 · Apr 2, 2014

Anyone have a semi invisible ball on TZ after this patch?

darkinertia · Apr 2, 2014

wow this is amazing! i cant believe i used to play SS how it used to be, MM is playable now!im glad theyre finally showing some respect for vita owners, this is making me not as pissed about the whole 5 bucks a table thing...i still wont download tables as loosely as i was doing before but still lol. the biggest surprise is seeing dr dude playable, thats the point in time where i was dissapointed in farsight the most. this doesnt make up for much considering this should of been things they should of fixed before we put our money down months ago, but now theyre starting to gain back my trust.

PoSTedUP · Apr 2, 2014

Shadowrider49 said:
Anyone have a semi invisible ball on TZ after this patch?

i think that is just the shine of the ball you are seeing. is it ony the space in between that seems "invisible" (o) and the center is solid? if so, your eyes are playing tricks on you.

PoSTedUP · Apr 2, 2014

darkinertia said:
wow this is amazing! i cant believe i used to play SS how it used to be, MM is playable now!im glad theyre finally showing some respect for vita owners, this is making me not as pissed about the whole 5 bucks a table thing...i still wont download tables as loosely as i was doing before but still lol. the biggest surprise is seeing dr dude playable, thats the point in time where i was dissapointed in farsight the most. this doesnt make up for much considering this should of been things they should of fixed before we put our money down months ago, but now theyre starting to gain back my trust.

wait... you Actually use to play SS!? ugh! i just couldnt! that was the worse table after DD, lol. im glad now, too. im hoping they can release a quick update for stability issues. can you tell me how blackhole and black knight play for you?

DrPinballs · Apr 2, 2014

Thanks for the replies regarding Season 2.

Overall, I'm happy because the tables I care about now all look and play great (Tales, Ripley's, Medieval Madness, Creature, Monster Bash, Scared Stiff, Twilight Zone, Star Trek, Attack From Mars).

Kratos3 · Apr 2, 2014

One bug I've noticed is the display on the back glass of non-DMD games is stretched or something. Check out Whirlwind and EATPM for the best examples. It doesn't effect game play, but it's there.

Neil L · Apr 2, 2014

Kratos3 said:
One bug I've noticed is the display on the back glass of non-DMD games is stretched or something. Check out Whirlwind and EATPM for the best examples. It doesn't effect game play, but it's there.

I posted a list of bugs a few pages back on this thread, a lot of them were to do with the above backglass display problems:

Neil L said:
Flight 2000: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showt...00-wizard-goal-unlocked-after-scoring-200-000
Whirlwind: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7440-DMD-on-backbox-is-only-showing-the-top-line (2 issues)
Victory: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7452-Score-display-all-wrong-amp-plays-really-slow
Haunted House: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7453-Flippers-still-work-after-tilting (Bug also on PS3 & PC)
El Dorado: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7454-Score-display-not-working-properly
Tee'd Off: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7457-SKINS!-and-GOPHER-lights-not-working
Black Hole: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7468-Ball-rolling-under-the-lights
Centaur: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7469-Weird-flashes-at-sides-of-table
Class of 1812: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7476-Plunger-plate-missing?p=136795#post136795 (3 issues)
Dr. Dude: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showt...-distorted-on-the-backbox?p=137002#post137002
Scared Stiff: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7501-Weird-flashing-lights
Creature From The Black Lagoon: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showt...f-on-backglass?p=137758&viewfull=1#post137758 (Bug also on PS3)
Goin' Nuts: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7608-Multi-ball-light-not-lighting

Also on some tables the touch screen controls randomly pop up usually after pausing or restarting:

(There's a couple of PS3 issues here: Goin' Nuts: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7447-PS3-version-too-purple & Champion Pub: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7448-No-way-to-hold-the-launch-button )

I don't know if any have been fixed as I'm still waiting for the patch over here, I've also posted another request here: http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/7651-PSN-store-needs-tidying-up?p=140974#post140974

Kratos3 · Apr 2, 2014

Should also add that the display on the back box on Funhouse doesn't do anything.

Rayder · Apr 2, 2014

For whatever reason, I cannot get Medieval Madness and Bride of Pinbot to update on Vita. Through the UI, I get the upgrade prompt, but then it takes me to a store link with no download button. If it try through my PS3 to get them, then transfer them to the Vita, they pretend to install, but I still get the update prompt when I try to play them. I have tried multiple times.

I'm having a similar issue on PS3 with El Dorado and Cue Ball Wizard.....they will NOT update no matter which packs I try to install.

Every other table updated fine, but not those two. I don't want to buy the new tables until I get all the old ones going first. I have all of season 1 and 2. Any ideas?

DrPinballs · Apr 2, 2014

As far as general interface, I wish each table would 'remember' your camera choice. It's a simple thing that should have been fixed rather easily. Or at least maintain similar viewing angles for each camera across all tables. Also, removing the 2 prompts once the game boots would be nice. Just drop us right into the main menu.

DrPinballs · Apr 2, 2014

Rayder said:
For whatever reason, I cannot get Medieval Madness and Bride of Pinbot to update on Vita. Through the UI, I get the upgrade prompt, but then it takes me to a store link with no download button. If it try through my PS3 to get them, then transfer them to the Vita, they pretend to install, but I still get the update prompt when I try to play them. I have tried multiple times.

I'm having a similar issue on PS3 with El Dorado and Cue Ball Wizard.....they will NOT update no matter which packs I try to install.

Every other table updated fine, but not those two. I don't want to buy the new tables until I get all the old ones going first. I have all of season 1 and 2. Any ideas?

Try downloading directly from the store, or the download list (within the store).

Rayder · Apr 2, 2014

I've tried DL'ing through the store multiple times, using the pro and non-pro packs, multiple times. Still get the update prompts when I try to play them. I'm somewhere in the vicinity of trying to update them like 10 times now. They just refuse to acknowledge the updates.

I'm going to have to delete TPA from my Vita and PS3 and start all over again, aren't I?

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