Magna-Save Bug

dave950lam · Feb 16, 2014

It seems that the magna-save is lacking in power, very similiar to TOM's magic-save. It only seems to work if the the ball is only on top of it. The magna-save on the original BK has a much wider traction radius, almost an inch of range.

Bowflex · Feb 16, 2014

I don't know...I have balls get pulled out of the outlane in Theater of Magic. Not to mention that because of touchscreen issues, magna save is pretty much useless on iOS so to get that goal marked off, I had to hit the button and hope something went towards it. Ended up sucking the ball out of the inlane when the momentum should have already stopped the ball from going any further up (travelling from the flipper into the outlane and upwards just a little bit).

lio · Feb 16, 2014

The magnet really is a lot too weak - on every bk2k i've played (including my own) the magnet is a lot stronger.
Usually it can pull up slow balls almost when they are down ot the "last chance" insert in the outlane.
Also a ball that has been grabbed by the magnet swirls around a lot more before it stays in the center.

dave950lam · Feb 19, 2014

Here's the bug in action. Watch it at 4:38 and you'll see the magna-save activated just as the ball starts draining:
Courtesy of Pinballwizb45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hDVX3zVES6E

The ball should've been pulled to the magnet, but it isn't.
I believe this is on a mobile device. I myself am playing on pc.

Master Magician · Feb 20, 2014

For that matter, there's a very important question the "options" menu does not answer::: WHAT BUTTON ACTIVATES THE MAGNA SAVE? On a PC. Its not listed in the control option menu, or the instructions. And I'm sure as heck not going to just start pressing buttons at random. So what button on the PC activates it?

netizen · Feb 20, 2014

Master Magician said:
For that matter, there's a very important question the "options" menu does not answer::: WHAT BUTTON ACTIVATES THE MAGNA SAVE? On a PC. Its not listed in the control option menu, or the instructions. And I'm sure as heck not going to just start pressing buttons at random. So what button on the PC activates it?

the secondary flipper, on BK2K it'll be the Right one.

Master Magician · Feb 20, 2014

netizen said:
the secondary flipper, on BK2K it'll be the Right one.

Which corresponds to what keyboard key? I have left/right shift for flippers, and space bar for plunger. Nothing in instructions about a secondary flipper. Enter? Backspace? Semicolon?

Fungi · Feb 20, 2014

Try the right CTRL.

netizen · Feb 20, 2014

or go into the keyboard mappping options to look or and set it to whatever is convenient

Pinballwiz45b · Feb 21, 2014

I used the Backspace button, similar to controls on "Timeshock!".

Master Magician · Feb 21, 2014

EDIT: FOUND IT!!! Woo hoo

Fungi · Feb 21, 2014

Master Magician said:
Does anyone play this game on PC in the first place?

Yes. Did you try the right CTRL button?

dave950lam · Feb 21, 2014

Master Magician said:
Unless I'm totally blind, there's no option in keyboard mapping for the Magna Save. Flippers, Plunger, Camera view, Tilt, all that is there, filling up two screens. But no secondary flipper. Whatever it is, it's permanently stuck on default as there's no option to change it. So, I need to know what the default setting is.
Does anyone play this game on PC in the first place?

I do, and like the use an xbox controller. Much easier than remembering which key is for nudging, magnasave, etc.,

netizen · Feb 21, 2014

Master Magician said:
Unless I'm totally blind, there's no option in keyboard mapping for the Magna Save. Flippers, Plunger, Camera view, Tilt, all that is there, filling up two screens. But no secondary flipper. Whatever it is, it's permanently stuck on default as there's no option to change it. So, I need to know what the default setting is.
Does anyone play this game on PC in the first place?

oh yeah totally no option at all:

2nd Right Flipper is the one you want for Magna save on BK2K as mentioned. Configure it to how you want or leave it as default; what is shown is not default settings.

Use the arrow keys to highlight the mapping you want to change press select, then the key on your keyboard you want to map to the command, repeat as necessary.

dave950lam · Mar 29, 2014

Just bumping to the top. Manga-save still too weak and has no range. The ball must be right on top of it to work. IRL,the ball would be saved if it's at the top of the outlane.

Also was wrong about BK, as you get the same result as BK2000.

Any chance you can program in the magnetic force that TZ has? That's how it's done.

IGoFirstIndy · Oct 3, 2014

Was this ever acknowledged or addressed by Farsight? The manga save seems impossible on the iPad. Especially with the button placement.

Fungi · Oct 3, 2014

IGoFirstIndy said:
Was this ever acknowledged or addressed by Farsight? The manga save seems impossible on the iPad. Especially with the button placement.

You know you can move it to where you want right?

IGoFirstIndy · Oct 3, 2014

Fungi said:
You know you can move it to where you want right?

I did not. Thank you sir!

Fungi · Oct 3, 2014

IGoFirstIndy said:
I did not. Thank you sir!

Funny thing is, I still can never use the Magna-Save in time.

IGoFirstIndy · Oct 3, 2014

Yeah. So the manga save doesn't really work on iPad. I've never played a real table is it always this weak?

Also this table has by far the worst camera angles of any table in TPA. Especially for how fast it plays. God forbid the ball goes around the skyway loop fast and drains into the lower play field cause the camera completely loses track of it and you're at the mercy the pin gods if it drains out or not.

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