Android - Request One more touch scheme for portrait

kinggo · Jul 11, 2014

I find myself switching back and forth between type A and type E and I'm not satisfied with them. A is good for shake nudge but that leads to some other issues with oversensitivity and then tilts, especially on some video modes.
The issue with A is that L/R nudge zones are to high.
The issue with E is that L/R flipper zone is to narrow.

Proposition is, make another one (or modify C) with one that has flipper zones as wide as on A but at least as low as on E. Ideally, height shoud be the same as width on A.

rob3d · Jul 11, 2014

kinggo said:
I find myself switching back and forth between type A and type E and I'm not satisfied with them. A is good for shake nudge but that leads to some other issues with oversensitivity and then tilts, especially on some video modes.
The issue with A is that L/R nudge zones are to high.
The issue with E is that L/R flipper zone is to narrow.

Proposition is, make another one (or modify C) with one that has flipper zones as wide as on A but at least as low as on E. Ideally, height shoud be the same as width on A.

It would be so awesome if we could scale the zones ourselves. Dunno how hard that would be to implement though.

danivempire · Jul 11, 2014

rob3d said:
It would be so awesome if we could scale the zones ourselves. Dunno how hard that would be to implement though.

totally agree, would be awesome!!!!

kinggo · Jul 11, 2014

yes, that would do also.

switch3flip · Jul 12, 2014

It's been discussed a bit here with programmers, you could say it seems the way it is now is the best that could be done at that point.

superballs · Jul 12, 2014

I wish they would add a touch zone between the flippers for upward nudging when in shake nudge mode.

kinggo · Jul 12, 2014

switch3flip said:
It's been discussed a bit here with programmers, you could say it seems the way it is now is the best that could be done at that point.

hmmmm...... but it isn't. Tablets have much bigger bezels than phones. And while I do agree that customizable touch zones are maybe to much to ask (and I dont need that) I don't see why adding one more fixed scheme would be such a big problem.

netizen · Jul 12, 2014

Were lucky we even got the E touch zone template. Originally it was just going to be A-D, but feedback directly to a programmer got E laid out and mocked, mostly for my big hands playing in portrait after the adjustable special button had been implemented.

Damn Stuart was one cool dude.

jaredmorgs · Mar 30, 2015

Bumping this request, [MENTION=4573]Scumble373[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3799]FlippyFloppy[/MENTION]. How hard would it be to add this layout for iOS and Android?

kinggo · Mar 30, 2015

THX
something like this is what I have in mind

Scumble373 · Mar 30, 2015

jaredmorgs said:
Bumping this request, [MENTION=4573]Scumble373[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3799]FlippyFloppy[/MENTION]. How hard would it be to add this layout for iOS and Android?

So the touch scheme (g) would have the width of A, but with the height of E? And everything else the same?

EldarOfSuburbia · Mar 30, 2015

kinggo said:
THX
something like this is what I have in mind

Sorry to go off-topic for a sec... but wouldn't a mirror-image mode be great?! Seriously, how messed up would that be?

kinggo · Mar 30, 2015

Scumble373 said:
So the touch scheme (g) would have the width of A, but with the height of E? And everything else the same?

thanx for looking into this...
no, G would have width of A and the height shuould be approximately the same as the width. I'm bad at photoshop but there's that grey line just below the original scheme frame. Maybe a bit higher, up to the coin door.
I'm playing in portrait only and nugde zones are to high. I tried to hold the tablet more on the sides an not on the corners but then my thumbs blocking the view. And the bottom corners are empty so perfect place for tapping.

Scumble373 · Mar 30, 2015

kinggo said:
thanx for looking into this...
no, G would have width of A and the height shuould be approximately the same as the width. I'm bad at photoshop but there's that grey line just below the original scheme frame. Maybe a bit higher, up to the coin door.
I'm playing in portrait only and nugde zones are to high. I tried to hold the tablet more on the sides an not on the corners but then my thumbs blocking the view. And the bottom corners are empty so perfect place for tapping.

Absolutely, I'm always happy to look into features that you guys want. The fact that we have multiple touch schemes makes me hopeful that it won't be hard to have another, so I will definitely be looking into this. When I get to actually putting values in I will come back and ask for specifically what the touch scheme should like so that it can be exactly what you guys want. What I'm hearing so far is:

- Flipper left and right: Width of A and height = width of A.
- Nudge zones: lower?

So just let me know (or draw out) exactly what you guys are looking for so that when I get to it I'll be able to put it a touch scheme that works best for you!

kinggo · Mar 30, 2015

man, I'm so bad at PS so I'll try with words first.
So the idea is to use scheme A as a base, keep the width of the flipper zones as is and the upward nudge as is but make them shorter so that L/R nudge zones are lower, even lower than on scheme E.

Scumble373 · Mar 30, 2015

kinggo said:
man, I'm so bad at PS so I'll try with words first.
So the idea is to use scheme A as a base, keep the width of the flipper zones as is and the upward nudge as is but make them shorter so that L/R nudge zones are lower, even lower than on scheme E.

Aha! That helps a lot. I'll work on this when I have some free time and get back to you when I have something to show!

kinggo · Mar 30, 2015

THX, I'm really glad that that you'll look into this.

....and a lousy PS

I scaled this to fit my tablet and this should work. But I would like to hear others on this subject. If this happens I don't want to be "the" guy responsible for lousy scheme.

jaredmorgs · Mar 30, 2015

kinggo said:
THX, I'm really glad that that you'll look into this.

Thanks for investigating this. Kinggo raised this as a pain point in another thread so I thought it deserved another look. As always, thanks for continuing to improve the offering [MENTION=4573]Scumble373[/MENTION]

Scumble373 · Mar 31, 2015

jaredmorgs said:
Thanks for investigating this. Kinggo raised this as a pain point in another thread so I thought it deserved another look. As always, thanks for continuing to improve the offering [MENTION=4573]Scumble373[/MENTION]

Absolutely. This is why I love these forums. If it wasn't for this thread I wouldn't have ever known people wanted a different control scheme.

kinggo · Mar 31, 2015

I forgot to add those diagonal nudge zones. So upper part should be divided in 4 parts.

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