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<blockquote data-quote="WhiteChocolate" data-source="post: 222412" data-attributes="member: 4374"><p>wow well, it goes without saying that all this news news is most excellent!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>invitro ("are we ourselves?" - "and do we really know!" ;0), if i may latch onto a quote there of bobby's: "If we made a digital table and it sold a million copies and it was feasible to build it in the real world, then I think that design would have to be of interest to a manufacturer like Stern," Mr King says...</p><p></p><p>a -million- copies??? of -any- pinball table, digital or otherwise, would be a -truly phenomenal- event; after all, how many of one individual table has sold the most? 30, 40k units, tops, as currently estimated from what i've seen? (thought i saw recently another thread where peeps were speculating about TPA's unit sales - how many is the best-selling table of TPA's? of zen's? of any real-world manufacturer?)</p><p></p><p>if there's not much other evidence, i would easily suspect zen selling around a few 100k on one table/title, but slap me if it's proven already they've done much more than that <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> but most of their tables are "holographic tech" and can't be done as rw tables... they just never aimed that direction; farsight did! so i would set the threshold of bk's estimate 10-fold lower - 100,000 in perhaps any format, and you'd have a big winner for running a realworld table on order!</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>running alongside that thought, same time as i make it... what is the modern state of pinball manufacturing like, what of its future? i see jj's awesome take on modern tech and wonder, "has 3d-printing" made much impact already in stern and the rest's builds? could they store the toys, even the table layouts/gutters, and 3d-print them whole when ordered? has much gone on 3d printing of parts in pinball manu?? but i digress...</p><p></p><p>-----</p><p></p><p>i'd also nit-pick a bit another quote of his, "Those cost considerations [of the past] are irrelevant when machines are designed only to be built in the virtual world, so imagine what these guys could do if they were given carte blanche." - well, "time = money" no matter how you cut it, and there's time invested in developing/update/upkeep of those tools, so it's certainly not "irrelvant;" it's not like there's no cost... still it's appreciated that on several levels, it cuts on-line dev costs, but not so much "artistic time".</p><p></p><p>but, just so like the "cab-frenzy" threads (oh i so feel their pain <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" />, the "pinball construction set" may be just like that, something that with all the side-cost-cutting always going on, just may take five-ten years to realize, so it seems they're just trying to downplay things into a "corporate perspective" of timeframe/expectations.</p><p></p><p>p.s. TNT's note: "Pinball Arcade has been downloaded over 12 million times across mobile, console and PC platforms, and has over one million active players each month." WOW, okay, so i'd have to revise my numbers above lol. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> let's say instead, 250-500k digital units instead of 100k...</p><p></p><p>hmm, just starting season five - although probably most of us are double-downloads, dual platform players... est. worst, 6 million TPA players, across four seasons is beddy beddy goot! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> (and imagine everyone we're infecting with the pinball virus too, heh! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>p.p.s. invitro's last note about negotiation/licensing clout - i dunno, since fs has had to do a lot of footwork themselves the past some years doing this stuff, i think it's kind of now a "1+1 = 3 or even 4" situation... <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> allies, unite!! ;0</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WhiteChocolate, post: 222412, member: 4374"] wow well, it goes without saying that all this news news is most excellent!! :) invitro ("are we ourselves?" - "and do we really know!" ;0), if i may latch onto a quote there of bobby's: "If we made a digital table and it sold a million copies and it was feasible to build it in the real world, then I think that design would have to be of interest to a manufacturer like Stern," Mr King says... a -million- copies??? of -any- pinball table, digital or otherwise, would be a -truly phenomenal- event; after all, how many of one individual table has sold the most? 30, 40k units, tops, as currently estimated from what i've seen? (thought i saw recently another thread where peeps were speculating about TPA's unit sales - how many is the best-selling table of TPA's? of zen's? of any real-world manufacturer?) if there's not much other evidence, i would easily suspect zen selling around a few 100k on one table/title, but slap me if it's proven already they've done much more than that :) but most of their tables are "holographic tech" and can't be done as rw tables... they just never aimed that direction; farsight did! so i would set the threshold of bk's estimate 10-fold lower - 100,000 in perhaps any format, and you'd have a big winner for running a realworld table on order! ----- running alongside that thought, same time as i make it... what is the modern state of pinball manufacturing like, what of its future? i see jj's awesome take on modern tech and wonder, "has 3d-printing" made much impact already in stern and the rest's builds? could they store the toys, even the table layouts/gutters, and 3d-print them whole when ordered? has much gone on 3d printing of parts in pinball manu?? but i digress... ----- i'd also nit-pick a bit another quote of his, "Those cost considerations [of the past] are irrelevant when machines are designed only to be built in the virtual world, so imagine what these guys could do if they were given carte blanche." - well, "time = money" no matter how you cut it, and there's time invested in developing/update/upkeep of those tools, so it's certainly not "irrelvant;" it's not like there's no cost... still it's appreciated that on several levels, it cuts on-line dev costs, but not so much "artistic time". but, just so like the "cab-frenzy" threads (oh i so feel their pain ;), the "pinball construction set" may be just like that, something that with all the side-cost-cutting always going on, just may take five-ten years to realize, so it seems they're just trying to downplay things into a "corporate perspective" of timeframe/expectations. p.s. TNT's note: "Pinball Arcade has been downloaded over 12 million times across mobile, console and PC platforms, and has over one million active players each month." WOW, okay, so i'd have to revise my numbers above lol. ;) let's say instead, 250-500k digital units instead of 100k... hmm, just starting season five - although probably most of us are double-downloads, dual platform players... est. worst, 6 million TPA players, across four seasons is beddy beddy goot! :) (and imagine everyone we're infecting with the pinball virus too, heh! ;) p.p.s. invitro's last note about negotiation/licensing clout - i dunno, since fs has had to do a lot of footwork themselves the past some years doing this stuff, i think it's kind of now a "1+1 = 3 or even 4" situation... :) allies, unite!! ;0 [/QUOTE]
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