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Message: <blockquote data-quote="bavelb" data-source="post: 280895" data-attributes="member: 358">Nothing wrong with freemium models where you buy in for a whole new character, level, hat or dance. ie: TPA/Zen. Heck I dont mind it in paid stuff like SF5 or Destiny either. The developer put in more time to expand, of course I’m willing to pay to get it.Still not much of a problem for lootboxes with random cosmetic rewards (Dota2, Overwatch). Especially if you can occassionally grind those out by playing the actual fun game. Battlepasses like Fortnite are therefor still ok-ish, although tattering on manipulation due to peerpressure.Once it touches gameplay I’m out. Rule of thumb: any game that lets you pay to skip, or speed up, parts of said game should be avoided. ESPECIALLY if it involves multiplayer.After all, they would (un)balance the game so that I WANT to avoid significant parts of said game. Meaning they would knowingly put in boring/unfun/overly grindy bits. So why not cut out the middleman and skip it...all of it...for free!e: I cant imagine how soulcrushing it is to have to develop those types of games. I assume most devs got into the business to invent cool games/systems or tell great stories. And then you get forced into developing yet another Skinnerbox with manipulative stimuli, so the guineapigs will keep pulling the lever for the pellets to fall out.</blockquote>

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