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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gorgar" data-source="post: 230746" data-attributes="member: 259">I generally find it much more difficult to keep the ball alive in Zen Pinball than TPA, probably because I play more TPA. I do have a lot of problems trying to figure out what to do on many of their tables and often get bored of them quickly.I actually have the same taste as Shutyertrap in zen tables because I find both Iron Man and Epic Quest to be the most enjoyable. They both share that easy to learn, difficult to master quality that I think makes a good pinball table. I also enjoyed Bob's Burgers (I haven't even heard of the show), which is more complicated, but it kind of reminds me of Diner where you have to serve customers. I think that kind of thing (along with picking up customers, like in Taxi) works well in pinball.</blockquote>

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