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Mechanix77, you seem like a nice guy, but you need to realise the difference between "having an opinion" and looking down on others for having theirs. I told you already, I totally respect that you don't like those two tables, the issue here is that you need to respect people who like it, and realise that you are in the minority here. You keep telling me that "it's just an opinion", so all I'm telling you is act like it's just an opinion