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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DokkenRokken" data-source="post: 163405" data-attributes="member: 4295">So I asked again, directly, on the FB page:There's a big debate going on over at TPA Fan Forum in regards to EMs. We all know that, in the past, you guys have said that EM's have sold poorly, aren't very requested, and are mostly just not worth doing, but despite all that, there's a group of people that don't really buy this.Here's a sample of a few comments and arguments:- "There is still the logic problem of saying em's don't sell well. If they based the future of solid state tables off of the sales figures for genie, el dorado, lights camera action, goin nuts and teed off, we would have no pinball arcade to discuss.They released 3 mediocre em games (I like big shot quite a bit but it doesn't compare to many tables of that era) that are not well regarded or popular and have allowed that to dictate their entire philosophy. Have them release a game ranked in the top ten em polls from gottlieb (since they have no limit) and see if that does better. If so great and release a few more QUALITY AND WELL REGARDED EMs down the road. If it doesn't sell at least they have a leg to stand in on the argument. I personally don't buy it for now. Two turds and one above average table sold poorly? Who would have thought!?!"- "Good point. EMs sold poorly but they are in packs. That would suggest the packs they are in are low sellers then? So Scared Stiff and Cactus Canyon must have done quite poorly as well? Season 1 did have certain platforms where the tables were all sold individually so you could make a case for Big Shot selling poorly while it was offered on its own but there is only one other EM and it was sold as part of a pack and part of a season. How do you measure that? The pass wasn't available until well after it was released so a spike or dip would not register. I thought it was three EMs but there are only two. Hardly a reliable amount of data for any truly scientific measurement."- "I agree with those who have brought up the point that Farsight's selection of EMs hasn't been exactly stellar. Yes, Big Shot is good, but the rest weren't exactly highly sought after pins among EM enthusiasts. It's interesting that they say so often that EMs don't sell well...which is in response to EM requests...so clearly there are people who want EMs in the game if they're making requests, but they just want better EMs than those that Farsight originally selected. However, it's much more convenient for them to copy and paste their response that they don't sell well every time a request comes in, so that's probably what they'll continue to do."- "I have a difficult time believing that a classic iconic EM would sell any worse than, say, a late 80s Gottlieb like Lights Camera Action. And this doubly applies for the highly requested early solid state pins (like say Eight Ball Deluxe or Xenon) that we *know* there's demand for.Yet they made Lights Camera Action.Go figure."So, after reviewing the comments and arguments, what say you, Farsight? Help put this debate to bed!The response:Well, while there's a certain group of fans that certainly have a lot of love for EMs, and request them regularly... from following fan requests here and in the forums it's quite apparent that the majority prefer solid state tables. It's true that in the past EMs were packaged with SS tables, and that makes it difficult to track sales of individual tables. What isn't so hard to track, however, is comments from fans who downloaded said packages, including beta testers during the pre-release testing. The comments generally favor the SS tables as the reason they wanted the packs, and we even had a few requests to make it so that they didn't have to buy the EM because they'd never play them.None of this means that we here at Farsight just plain don't like EM tables, quite the contrary, we're fans of pinball in all of its forms, however we're also a business, and as such we have to consider what the majority want, especially since we're making a single table every month now. If we were to realease "aces high" or something similar we'd have a small group of very appreciative fans, and a larger group of people who don't understand why we'd do something like that when there are so many other highly requested tables we haven't gotten to yet from the SS era. There may come a time when we're able to release another EM or two, but that time is certainly not right now. We're sorry to our fans who really want some old school pinball goodness, but for now it'll have to wait.</blockquote>

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