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<blockquote data-quote="Cloda" data-source="post: 284554" data-attributes="member: 7520"><p>I <a href="https://forum.zenstudios.com/showthread.php?37423-Flipper-Skills" target="_blank">posted this on the official Zen Forum</a> but thought that the players on this forum that generally have more real table experience might have something more to add.</p><p></p><p>After watching a few PAPA tutorials and <a href="https://papa.org/learning-center/players-guide/#1522695882169-f1e0fd96-e0cc" target="_blank">skills videos</a>, I thought I'll give the tricks a go in the game. I specifically looked at the <a href="https://youtu.be/BzLXJMNdoXs?t=1274" target="_blank">Theatre of Magic tutorial in anticipation</a> of the table being released and the point was made (21m15) that it is essential to be able to do a live catch on the right flipper if you want to get anywhere on the table. Well, for the last couple of days, I have been sacrificing playing decent games to rather see if I can get some of these skills down playing Williams tables on Classic Arcade physics. I haven't been able to do one live catch (mostly trying on Attack from Mars when the ball comes out of the Stroke of luck hole) and something seems odd with drop catches. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xri-ffVoPqo" target="_blank">In the Attack from Mars tutorial video</a>, Bowen pulls both skills of the whole time as well as many other i.e. flick pass (my controller is not sensitive enough to do it). The odd thing I noticed in the game is that if you do a drop catch, you do prevent the ball from bouncing, but rather than it first rolling up the flipper a bit like in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMeWlVv63Yw&feature=youtu.be" target="_blank">this Drop Catch video</a>, the ball immediately rolls down towards the middle as in this video. The first attempt is the best I have had so far and the second is what usually happens:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]8EfjMsFSoqE[/MEDIA]. </p><p></p><p>Compared to <a href="https://youtu.be/xri-ffVoPqo?t=75" target="_blank">what should happen as in this video (1min15)</a>.</p><p></p><p>It is basically then not worthwhile to do as it is too risky and doesn't really give you an advantage and a dead bounce ends up being more rewarding.</p><p></p><p>What is your experience with these and other advanced skills in the game? Is it possible to do them and do they work like on a real table? I have been watching quite a few gameplay videos since the Williams tables has been released and I don't see these skills being pulled off even by players adept at the game (e.g. <a href="https://youtu.be/nTeUVukfky8?t=2924" target="_blank">LUP's club guys</a>). If anybody has any video evidence of these skills working in the game (other than the pre-release video from Zen), please share them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cloda, post: 284554, member: 7520"] I [URL="https://forum.zenstudios.com/showthread.php?37423-Flipper-Skills"]posted this on the official Zen Forum[/URL] but thought that the players on this forum that generally have more real table experience might have something more to add. After watching a few PAPA tutorials and [URL="https://papa.org/learning-center/players-guide/#1522695882169-f1e0fd96-e0cc"]skills videos[/URL], I thought I'll give the tricks a go in the game. I specifically looked at the [URL="https://youtu.be/BzLXJMNdoXs?t=1274"]Theatre of Magic tutorial in anticipation[/URL] of the table being released and the point was made (21m15) that it is essential to be able to do a live catch on the right flipper if you want to get anywhere on the table. Well, for the last couple of days, I have been sacrificing playing decent games to rather see if I can get some of these skills down playing Williams tables on Classic Arcade physics. I haven't been able to do one live catch (mostly trying on Attack from Mars when the ball comes out of the Stroke of luck hole) and something seems odd with drop catches. [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xri-ffVoPqo"]In the Attack from Mars tutorial video[/URL], Bowen pulls both skills of the whole time as well as many other i.e. flick pass (my controller is not sensitive enough to do it). The odd thing I noticed in the game is that if you do a drop catch, you do prevent the ball from bouncing, but rather than it first rolling up the flipper a bit like in [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMeWlVv63Yw&feature=youtu.be"]this Drop Catch video[/URL], the ball immediately rolls down towards the middle as in this video. The first attempt is the best I have had so far and the second is what usually happens: [MEDIA=youtube]8EfjMsFSoqE[/MEDIA]. Compared to [URL="https://youtu.be/xri-ffVoPqo?t=75"]what should happen as in this video (1min15)[/URL]. It is basically then not worthwhile to do as it is too risky and doesn't really give you an advantage and a dead bounce ends up being more rewarding. What is your experience with these and other advanced skills in the game? Is it possible to do them and do they work like on a real table? I have been watching quite a few gameplay videos since the Williams tables has been released and I don't see these skills being pulled off even by players adept at the game (e.g. [URL="https://youtu.be/nTeUVukfky8?t=2924"]LUP's club guys[/URL]). If anybody has any video evidence of these skills working in the game (other than the pre-release video from Zen), please share them. [/QUOTE]
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