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<blockquote data-quote="karl" data-source="post: 247657" data-attributes="member: 465"><p>The lead game designer for Heighway Pinball, Dave Sanders, *****-slapped The pinball arcade, hard and brutally on Twitter yesterday. (I believe he is also a member of this forum)</p><p></p><p>Eight Ball De Luxe was the target of his wrath, in particular.</p><p></p><p>For the record, he is not saying anything that a lot of others haven't said before, but he is the lead game designer of a pinball company and I just wonder if he should choose his words a little more carefully. Is it just me who feel that he might be going a little over the line here?</p><p></p><p>He has got some valid points and I agree that all of the things he has a problem with could be better, but why does he take to such extreme words and anger about it?</p><p></p><p>I guess I am spoiled because I very seldom play anything other than steam, and it is by far the best version. (sounded like he was playing on ios mainly) </p><p></p><p>I have no problem with suggestions to Farsight for making it better. Constructive Criticism or pointers on how they can make it better should always be welcome. But why all the trash talk? It sounded like he had an agenda. He probably does not, though. He is a straight talker, who usually says what is on his mind, with no sugar on top. I like that about him, but this time he went pretty far. Forums are one thing, but I feel that using twitter is another thing, especially when you play a vital part in the industry yourself.</p><p></p><p>He then praised Visual pinball, and this could be some of the reason. Many VP people love to talk about all the things Visual pinball gets right, and Farsight does not. </p><p> </p><p></p><p>I do not even know why I say all this because most of his points are valid. </p><p></p><p>Do I want the ball to be heavier? Yes</p><p>Do I want a little ball spin? Yes</p><p>Could the drop-target behavior be better? Yes</p><p>Is the solinoids overpowerd. oh, yes</p><p></p><p>But I see no reason to get so worked up about it. </p><p></p><p>If you count out Pro-pinball, not even one of the hundreds of pinball simulators on IOS gets even close to the physics of Farsight. Is it perfect, though? Far from it</p><p></p><p>Again, it is the words used on a big, public place like twitter, by a well respected person in both the digial and real pinball world that got me to write this.</p><p></p><p>Did he go to far? Or is this ok? Thoughts from other members, please <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Here are some of the quotes that I am talking about: I put in a comment at the end of every quote </p><p>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>"Farsight's version of Eight Ball Deluxe is the last straw, off the iPad it goes. Plays like a dead frog with a car battery up its arse." (funny allegory but very harsh) </p><p></p><p>"No sense of weight or gravity, no proper target hit surfaces, no bounce to any rubbers, and the deficit is made up by overpowered solenoids." ( I agree with this one, all of it actually )</p><p></p><p>"Honestly, I kept wanting and trying to like it, but we got past this learning stage in Visual Pinball around 2004..." ( ughhh, this one I will not comment) </p><p></p><p>"The kind of '****ing ****' that Farsight could tweak-fix in the physics engine in five seconds if only they could be bloody bothered. " (no comments needed here)</p><p>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="karl, post: 247657, member: 465"] The lead game designer for Heighway Pinball, Dave Sanders, *****-slapped The pinball arcade, hard and brutally on Twitter yesterday. (I believe he is also a member of this forum) Eight Ball De Luxe was the target of his wrath, in particular. For the record, he is not saying anything that a lot of others haven't said before, but he is the lead game designer of a pinball company and I just wonder if he should choose his words a little more carefully. Is it just me who feel that he might be going a little over the line here? He has got some valid points and I agree that all of the things he has a problem with could be better, but why does he take to such extreme words and anger about it? I guess I am spoiled because I very seldom play anything other than steam, and it is by far the best version. (sounded like he was playing on ios mainly) I have no problem with suggestions to Farsight for making it better. Constructive Criticism or pointers on how they can make it better should always be welcome. But why all the trash talk? It sounded like he had an agenda. He probably does not, though. He is a straight talker, who usually says what is on his mind, with no sugar on top. I like that about him, but this time he went pretty far. Forums are one thing, but I feel that using twitter is another thing, especially when you play a vital part in the industry yourself. He then praised Visual pinball, and this could be some of the reason. Many VP people love to talk about all the things Visual pinball gets right, and Farsight does not. I do not even know why I say all this because most of his points are valid. Do I want the ball to be heavier? Yes Do I want a little ball spin? Yes Could the drop-target behavior be better? Yes Is the solinoids overpowerd. oh, yes But I see no reason to get so worked up about it. If you count out Pro-pinball, not even one of the hundreds of pinball simulators on IOS gets even close to the physics of Farsight. Is it perfect, though? Far from it Again, it is the words used on a big, public place like twitter, by a well respected person in both the digial and real pinball world that got me to write this. Did he go to far? Or is this ok? Thoughts from other members, please :) Here are some of the quotes that I am talking about: I put in a comment at the end of every quote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Farsight's version of Eight Ball Deluxe is the last straw, off the iPad it goes. Plays like a dead frog with a car battery up its arse." (funny allegory but very harsh) "No sense of weight or gravity, no proper target hit surfaces, no bounce to any rubbers, and the deficit is made up by overpowered solenoids." ( I agree with this one, all of it actually ) "Honestly, I kept wanting and trying to like it, but we got past this learning stage in Visual Pinball around 2004..." ( ughhh, this one I will not comment) "The kind of '****ing ****' that Farsight could tweak-fix in the physics engine in five seconds if only they could be bloody bothered. " (no comments needed here) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ [/QUOTE]
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