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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 275580" data-attributes="member: 134">I'm going to say some things and I only mean them in constructive ways.1. The name of the site is Digital Pinball Fans. Our URL has the dot com in it. Although I find the pinball as the dot clever, dot com should not be part of the logo at all. Would you put www. with it? Of course not. And there is not a single logo out there that has any part of a URL in it. It's clever, but it doesn't belong.2. A logo needs to work in black and white or 2 color form. It needs to scale and be identifiable exceedingly small. Look up at your browser and the tabs. See that little square with a logo in it? There ya go. Granted, those are actually icons not logos. I know that's extreme for the purposes of this site, but you get the idea.3. When it comes to fonts, they need to reflect and convey the proper idea. When I think digital and pinball, I think precision, clean lines, mechanical. The font being used for 'pinball fans' feels round and comical, the opposite of digi mechanical.4. I'd like to see what could be done with just the initials DPF. Google logos and you'll see it's a common way of coming up with a quickly identifiable graphic, and then a nice clean font spells out the full name.5. A simple search of 'graphic design rules for logos' brings up all sorts of good info. For instance, <a href="https://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/12-essential-rules-to-follow-when-designing-a-logo/" target="_blank">https://www.webdesignerdepot.com/2009/06/12-essential-rules-to-follow-when-designing-a-logo/</a>Do not ignore what every professional has learned whether in school, trial and error, or mentorship. Certain things are a must to adhere to, simplicity being the most important. It's perfectly fine being an amateur designer just fooling around in your spare time. It's incredibly gutsy for anyone to subject their work to public scrutiny, and I applaud it. That being said, tried and true still should be the guiding principle. The same should be applied to those offering opinion and notes; ask yourself what your favorite logos are, why they appeal to you. You are literally surrounded by them, all over your computer, printer, speakers, monitor, phone, game controller, on appliances and books and cars and virtually every product you own. Every single store, shop, restaurant you enter has a logo out front, and you know inherently which ones appeal to you and which ones don't. Every sports team has that iconic logo, and if you see the badge for the NBA, MLB, or NFL you know immediately what it is for.I hope I'm not coming off as some kind of know it all jerk who lacks appreciation. I'm just saying let's not fall in love yet. No one here likes it when FarSight rushes something to market, let's explore and refine options with this.</blockquote>

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