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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 48176" data-attributes="member: 134">My buddy keeps saying he needs to get me off of consoles for playing games and onto a proper PC, as opposed to my 6 year old video running off the motherboard pile of a pc. Problem is, majority of the games I really like, PS3 exclusives! God of War and Uncharted series are my fave games, period. Last of Us looks incredible. Before TPA, my go to game was Rock Band/Guitar Hero which while not console exclusive, needed the space of my living room to accommodate. I personally like playing on consoles. I hate the cost of the games, but then I don't buy a lot, maybe 3 or 4 titles a year, per console. I have PS3 and said buddy's Wii that is on permanent loan. He just dropped off his Xbox 360 but it's gotten no love from me.Boy did that paragraph start to ramble!It just seems to me, that with the PS2, games like Shadow of the Colossus showed why we needed a PS3, cause it took it to the breaking point and then some. As Worf pointed out, few are maxing out the PS3. I'll believe you guys about the Xbox being tapped, as I have little experience with it. Shoot, Mark was saying how different the dashboard even is from when it started out...well that's the dash I'm looking at as my buddy hadn't updated his Xbox in an eternity and I don't have it hooked up to the internet!I do think the 3rd party developers are gonna play an interesting role this go around. They've all but stated, for games like Madden that are spread across everything, they're playing to lowest common denominator. So if Xbox comes out new in 2013, but PS4 isn't coming out till 2014, they're not gonna do an all out version JUST for Xbox. No money in it considering the costs to develop. Wii U is essentially only on par with current, but their architecture is not easily ported to like can be done between Xbox and Sony. So it's whoever is last out the gate that determines what the commonalities are, and those will be the benchmarks. Which means it will only be the 1st party games that will be pushing the limits of the platforms. Which is why again, I'm not in a rush for new PS4 as 1st parties are still scratching away at the limits of the PS3.I'll put this out there too. 4K tv's, while insanely expensive, are just around the corner, as in this year. There is no content for them though, as most broadcasters only output 720p max, and there is no disc based movies or player yet for it. I know MS doesn't have a care about the tv market, but Sony sure does. If they just wait 2 years, they could put out a...wait for it...PS4k! Now your resolution is better than retina, equal and better than PC, and capable of insane fps. Sony always says how the lifecycle of their platforms is 10 years, well that would come out then at year what, 8 or 9 of the PS3? And it would be a major step up that people are looking to see. They'd attract the early adopters of both the tv and console market, and 2 years after that the cost of a 4k set will be down to somewhat affordable. The majority of households that got HDTV did so about 4 years ago? So that would put their tv at 6 years old 2 years from now, meaning a new tv is within the realm of possibility especially if there is new amazing looking content.Well, nobody ever said I had to be realistic! I can spin a whopper of a tale if the mood strikes me! Not to mention this being an Xbox thread, I just went off on a completely Sony tangent. So lemme bring it back around by asking this...Do you guys think MS is more interested in fighting a future Google or Apple console then they are fighting Sony and Nintendo with video games? Everything I hear about the new Xbox has to do with media content and integration, not games so much. Do you not think that's really why the push for new?</blockquote>

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