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<blockquote data-quote="Worf" data-source="post: 48292" data-attributes="member: 1047"><p>Well, that's all speculation at the moment. However, MS does know how much people have spent on XBLA stuff, and they know it's a significant amount. So they're probably going to do something. After all, the Xbox360 is a single chip now - they could do a PS3 and stick it in the next Xbox to run side by side. </p><p></p><p>Another thing perhaps is because it's all APIs these days (DirectX - trivia: the name "Xbox" comes from the fact it has DirectX, as in DirectXBox), MS could just emulate the Xbox processor and reroute API calls to native hardware, basically using API compatibility.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't worry too much about 4K - nothing's there yet. HDMI has a 4K spec, but there are few 4K sources and sinks. I believe RED (of cinema camera) has a special 4K compatible player for RED formatted video, and a 4K projector. But you're looking at a good 5 digits. 6 if you want to include the camera (and RED's popular because they're cheap).</p><p></p><p>All the announced 4K TVs are still in the 5 digit range, and no one's really announced anything consumer-y for 4K sources, nevermind 4K content. The only consumer 4K is a GoPro Hero 3 Black camera, but it only does 15fps and apparently, is awful because the low framerate makes it herky-jerky. By the time it's mainstream, we'll have discussions about the PS5 and Xbox Next After Next (1080?). There are fundamental issues with 4K broadcasts (as in too much bandwidth - broadcast TV is 720p/1080i (same bandwidth), 1080p requires double that. And 4K requires quadruple that. So 8 times more bandwidth is required to send a 4K broadcast than a 720p/1080i one), and likewise, Blu-Ray won't have enough space - the experimental 4 layer ones only do 100GB, which is half of what 4K needs. Plus, internet speeds just aren't there yet. </p><p></p><p>And to enjoy 4K requires a really, really, really large screen. And being uncomfortably close to it in order for the eye to make use of all the details (and really, most people sit too far away from their TVs to enjoy 1080p).</p><p></p><p>Lots of 4K content though - every contemporary movie is done in at least 4K. Just too many hurdles to overcome at the moment (they're streamed to theatres via satellite encrypted).</p><p></p><p>4K TVs might be coming out this year, but the public won't generally endorse them for a few years yet - you could buy HDTVs in 2000, but they were so expensive that few did buy them. It was only around 2006 or so that their price started tumbling. Even accelerated, that pushes 4K consumer adoption for at least 5 years - enough time for the next-gen console.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Worf, post: 48292, member: 1047"] Well, that's all speculation at the moment. However, MS does know how much people have spent on XBLA stuff, and they know it's a significant amount. So they're probably going to do something. After all, the Xbox360 is a single chip now - they could do a PS3 and stick it in the next Xbox to run side by side. Another thing perhaps is because it's all APIs these days (DirectX - trivia: the name "Xbox" comes from the fact it has DirectX, as in DirectXBox), MS could just emulate the Xbox processor and reroute API calls to native hardware, basically using API compatibility. I wouldn't worry too much about 4K - nothing's there yet. HDMI has a 4K spec, but there are few 4K sources and sinks. I believe RED (of cinema camera) has a special 4K compatible player for RED formatted video, and a 4K projector. But you're looking at a good 5 digits. 6 if you want to include the camera (and RED's popular because they're cheap). All the announced 4K TVs are still in the 5 digit range, and no one's really announced anything consumer-y for 4K sources, nevermind 4K content. The only consumer 4K is a GoPro Hero 3 Black camera, but it only does 15fps and apparently, is awful because the low framerate makes it herky-jerky. By the time it's mainstream, we'll have discussions about the PS5 and Xbox Next After Next (1080?). There are fundamental issues with 4K broadcasts (as in too much bandwidth - broadcast TV is 720p/1080i (same bandwidth), 1080p requires double that. And 4K requires quadruple that. So 8 times more bandwidth is required to send a 4K broadcast than a 720p/1080i one), and likewise, Blu-Ray won't have enough space - the experimental 4 layer ones only do 100GB, which is half of what 4K needs. Plus, internet speeds just aren't there yet. And to enjoy 4K requires a really, really, really large screen. And being uncomfortably close to it in order for the eye to make use of all the details (and really, most people sit too far away from their TVs to enjoy 1080p). Lots of 4K content though - every contemporary movie is done in at least 4K. Just too many hurdles to overcome at the moment (they're streamed to theatres via satellite encrypted). 4K TVs might be coming out this year, but the public won't generally endorse them for a few years yet - you could buy HDTVs in 2000, but they were so expensive that few did buy them. It was only around 2006 or so that their price started tumbling. Even accelerated, that pushes 4K consumer adoption for at least 5 years - enough time for the next-gen console. [/QUOTE]
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