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<blockquote data-quote="Furnessly" data-source="post: 79185" data-attributes="member: 2905"><p>Not interested at this at all even before talks of DRM/anti-used games/anti-consumer tactics.</p><p></p><p>It's just so much as gone wrong, you think that Microsoft is making a joke out of it but they are taking it seriously. As an entertainment machine, there are alternatives out there and as a console, unless you really love Call of Duty, Madden, FIFA, Halo, Forza and Kinect games there isn't much choice in terms of 1st party games and the big three can be found on other consoles. Plus from what I read, MS are having problems with the machine so it had to be even more cutdown compared to PS4. The game log in every 24 hours is silly since if your Internet is down, all you are left with is an expensive Blu-Ray player with a camera looking at you. The second-hand restrictions will cause retailers to close down and just left to online (e.g. Amazon/ShopTo) and Microsoft only. Sure people don't like GameStop, Game, HMV and CeX (the worst affected) for logical reasons but they are a choice for some people to buy their game and trade in to get more games. It will also affect independent stores and places like eBay as well. Not every game can be found sealed even 6 months after a game as been released. Also when MS switches off the "cloud" (cough)online DRM(cough), you are left with a bunch of useless discs. If it is a digital based console, it wouldn't have been as bad but since it has retail discs, it is much worse.</p><p></p><p>Also I can't see how this console... err... entertainment machine will be viable to outside the US where Microsoft has got rights to American sports and other services by comparison aren't available in the EU or other countries and whatever exclusive services they have (apart from possibly the UK) aren't as much. As well as the Kinect snooping at people will cause an uprising in the EU in terms of privacy laws.</p><p></p><p>The problem with the Xbone is that it is seen as a console designed by executives thinking it is a mass market but in reality, a smaller market than they think. Sadly while I think this will sell due to Microsoft having lots of marketing money and people will buy it, a lot of people are put off and go to Sony, Nintendo, Steam or phonecino.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, that said I wouldn't be buying an Xbone or a PS4 since the games that are coming out are getting less and less appealing to me. They are either FPS games (yes, they have been around since Wolfenstein 3D and I like a few but many now are like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare in feel even if they are in space with multiplayer) and picky even at that, uninspired cover shooter, Japanese RPGs with young girls, gambling phone games that are clones of Puzzle Bobble/insert puzzle or strategy game here that have in game app purchases spending real money to clear a stage which is bad game design, Westernised feeling games from Japanese developers (the modern Capcom stuff applies here) and disappointing sequels in series. Also Grand Theft Auto burnt me out after GTA 4 where I found it disappointing, annoying and not fun to play for me even though I know lots who love it and they're looking forward to 5. Even the indies aren't appealing to me for some reason. I know Sony usually do have more to offer for me then Microsoft but after playing games since the Mega Drive days, I feel I have enough consoles to last a lifetime. The only console I am buying is a Wii U and that is my Mario/Sonic/Donkey Kong/The 90s Arcade Racer machine. As for PS3/PS Vita, only about 3 or 4 games I will be getting this year and that might be it.</p><p></p><p>I miss the days of arcade racing games ala OutRun/Daytona/Burnout since even Ridge Racer has been changed for the worst, miss the days where a good platformer can take you to a magical place away from reality, miss the days where if a game goes Hollywood at least it is to smile from action movies like Die Hard or games like Max Payne, missed when you beating people up in cities either as beefy mayors or hot brunettes and finally missed when games weren't taken seriously. As an example, I bought myself an original Xbox and so far have 25 games that have interested me with some more to go, most except Forza you can't get on a modern console and not even on Steam especially Burnout 3. Plus the only games I really enjoyed this year have been 80s throwbacks of Double Dragon Neon and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, Sly Cooper 4 which is a throwback to the early 2000s 3D platformers and a certain pinball game made by a certain company in Big Bear Lake.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Furnessly, post: 79185, member: 2905"] Not interested at this at all even before talks of DRM/anti-used games/anti-consumer tactics. It's just so much as gone wrong, you think that Microsoft is making a joke out of it but they are taking it seriously. As an entertainment machine, there are alternatives out there and as a console, unless you really love Call of Duty, Madden, FIFA, Halo, Forza and Kinect games there isn't much choice in terms of 1st party games and the big three can be found on other consoles. Plus from what I read, MS are having problems with the machine so it had to be even more cutdown compared to PS4. The game log in every 24 hours is silly since if your Internet is down, all you are left with is an expensive Blu-Ray player with a camera looking at you. The second-hand restrictions will cause retailers to close down and just left to online (e.g. Amazon/ShopTo) and Microsoft only. Sure people don't like GameStop, Game, HMV and CeX (the worst affected) for logical reasons but they are a choice for some people to buy their game and trade in to get more games. It will also affect independent stores and places like eBay as well. Not every game can be found sealed even 6 months after a game as been released. Also when MS switches off the "cloud" (cough)online DRM(cough), you are left with a bunch of useless discs. If it is a digital based console, it wouldn't have been as bad but since it has retail discs, it is much worse. Also I can't see how this console... err... entertainment machine will be viable to outside the US where Microsoft has got rights to American sports and other services by comparison aren't available in the EU or other countries and whatever exclusive services they have (apart from possibly the UK) aren't as much. As well as the Kinect snooping at people will cause an uprising in the EU in terms of privacy laws. The problem with the Xbone is that it is seen as a console designed by executives thinking it is a mass market but in reality, a smaller market than they think. Sadly while I think this will sell due to Microsoft having lots of marketing money and people will buy it, a lot of people are put off and go to Sony, Nintendo, Steam or phonecino. Anyway, that said I wouldn't be buying an Xbone or a PS4 since the games that are coming out are getting less and less appealing to me. They are either FPS games (yes, they have been around since Wolfenstein 3D and I like a few but many now are like Call of Duty: Modern Warfare in feel even if they are in space with multiplayer) and picky even at that, uninspired cover shooter, Japanese RPGs with young girls, gambling phone games that are clones of Puzzle Bobble/insert puzzle or strategy game here that have in game app purchases spending real money to clear a stage which is bad game design, Westernised feeling games from Japanese developers (the modern Capcom stuff applies here) and disappointing sequels in series. Also Grand Theft Auto burnt me out after GTA 4 where I found it disappointing, annoying and not fun to play for me even though I know lots who love it and they're looking forward to 5. Even the indies aren't appealing to me for some reason. I know Sony usually do have more to offer for me then Microsoft but after playing games since the Mega Drive days, I feel I have enough consoles to last a lifetime. The only console I am buying is a Wii U and that is my Mario/Sonic/Donkey Kong/The 90s Arcade Racer machine. As for PS3/PS Vita, only about 3 or 4 games I will be getting this year and that might be it. I miss the days of arcade racing games ala OutRun/Daytona/Burnout since even Ridge Racer has been changed for the worst, miss the days where a good platformer can take you to a magical place away from reality, miss the days where if a game goes Hollywood at least it is to smile from action movies like Die Hard or games like Max Payne, missed when you beating people up in cities either as beefy mayors or hot brunettes and finally missed when games weren't taken seriously. As an example, I bought myself an original Xbox and so far have 25 games that have interested me with some more to go, most except Forza you can't get on a modern console and not even on Steam especially Burnout 3. Plus the only games I really enjoyed this year have been 80s throwbacks of Double Dragon Neon and Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon, Sly Cooper 4 which is a throwback to the early 2000s 3D platformers and a certain pinball game made by a certain company in Big Bear Lake. [/QUOTE]
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