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<blockquote data-quote="smbhax" data-source="post: 65633" data-attributes="member: 396"><p>Well, they're not going to change the size of the balls, that would be extra work, not to mention crazy.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5159/tzvssttngflippers.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>If we assume the yellow TZ flippers are the standard 3" flippers, and the ball sizes are identical between TZ and ST:TNG, then that means the ST:TNG flippers are about 2.75", or twice as short as lightning flippers, which are 1/8th inch shorter than standard flippers.</p><p></p><p>Kind of interesting though in that if you line up the cradled balls in the screenshots, the flipper tips come out about the same distance away. I suppose that could mean the TZ flippers are just sort of set back a bit and actually pivoting higher up the flipper than usual, although that would be kind of weird. Checking their action in the PS3 and Android versions, the TZ flippers *do* look slightly offset when they rotate, whereas the ST:TNG flippers look perfectly centered in their rotation--the TZ ones don't look off by nearly as much as a quarter inch, though. And flippers with very slightly off-center rotations are pretty common on the TPA tables. Anyway the ball's cradled position could have more to do with the position of the lane barrier adjacent to the flipper.</p><p></p><p>But if these are the regulation 17/16" pinballs, then it's the TZ flippers that are too long: if 83 pixels = 17/16", then the TZ flippers at 251 pixels = 3.21", or 0.21" longer than regulation flippers. Meanwhile, the TNG flippers, measured in relation to the ball's size in pixels, come in at 3.006", ie the regulation 3" size. So by that measure it's the TZ flippers that are too big. I can't find any indication that TZ's flippers are supposed to be anything other than the regulation 3" size, so that's kind of weird. And given that the ball-to-flipper size for ST:TNG comes out perfectly matching regulation size, then I think this is the most likely scenario: ST:TNG's flippers are the correct size, whereas the flippers in TZ are slightly longer than normal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smbhax, post: 65633, member: 396"] Well, they're not going to change the size of the balls, that would be extra work, not to mention crazy. [img]http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5159/tzvssttngflippers.jpg[/img] If we assume the yellow TZ flippers are the standard 3" flippers, and the ball sizes are identical between TZ and ST:TNG, then that means the ST:TNG flippers are about 2.75", or twice as short as lightning flippers, which are 1/8th inch shorter than standard flippers. Kind of interesting though in that if you line up the cradled balls in the screenshots, the flipper tips come out about the same distance away. I suppose that could mean the TZ flippers are just sort of set back a bit and actually pivoting higher up the flipper than usual, although that would be kind of weird. Checking their action in the PS3 and Android versions, the TZ flippers *do* look slightly offset when they rotate, whereas the ST:TNG flippers look perfectly centered in their rotation--the TZ ones don't look off by nearly as much as a quarter inch, though. And flippers with very slightly off-center rotations are pretty common on the TPA tables. Anyway the ball's cradled position could have more to do with the position of the lane barrier adjacent to the flipper. But if these are the regulation 17/16" pinballs, then it's the TZ flippers that are too long: if 83 pixels = 17/16", then the TZ flippers at 251 pixels = 3.21", or 0.21" longer than regulation flippers. Meanwhile, the TNG flippers, measured in relation to the ball's size in pixels, come in at 3.006", ie the regulation 3" size. So by that measure it's the TZ flippers that are too big. I can't find any indication that TZ's flippers are supposed to be anything other than the regulation 3" size, so that's kind of weird. And given that the ball-to-flipper size for ST:TNG comes out perfectly matching regulation size, then I think this is the most likely scenario: ST:TNG's flippers are the correct size, whereas the flippers in TZ are slightly longer than normal. [/QUOTE]
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