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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Animator_pin_fan" data-source="post: 1341" data-attributes="member: 96"><p>I was playing Whitewater last weekend and the ball was bounced all over the place. I must have hit the glass at least 5 times in one game.  With that said, yes, I too think that little bit of jumping off the table and bumping the glass where appropriate would really push the realism of TPA for me. Otherwise, l don't know how you can even compare the physics of Zen and TPA. Zen is fun, but not at all realistic. I agree, the Marvel series of tables have slightly improved physics, but it still has way too much spin for my taste. Try doing a simple post pass on TPA like you would do on a real pinball table , and then try it on Zen. I feel the difference.</p></blockquote><p></p>

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