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<blockquote data-quote="Narc0lep5y" data-source="post: 296049" data-attributes="member: 5223"><p>Solid No. </p><p></p><p>The Epic store is terrible. 40% owned by TenCent. A terrible interface, poor shopping experience, no gift card support, especially when they've already been hacked make it a net negative user experience. I wont buy anything on Epic and this isn't convincing me otherwise. Happy to take all their free giveaways but wont give them a credit card. </p><p></p><p>Don't you love that we get both an Xbox and a PS5 version without platform exclusivity but PC, the most open platform, has the least amount of purchase options? </p><p>Zen is OK paying Sony and Microsoft their "cut" to get on those platforms, but Steam is too restrictive? I could turn this into an economics of games publishing discussion from my former job experience but I can safely say that Steam is not charging anything outrageously more for their platform and Epic is just undercutting them with an inferior product. </p><p></p><p>Edit: Unreal Engine probably adds some pressure from Epic to put it on store or some additional incentives. I understand the move more from Zen’s perspective for the engine but still hate the move as a consumer. End edit. </p><p></p><p>But personal PC store front preferences aside, this move doesn't really make sense for the product either. Steam has the higher user base. Epic charges less to the publisher so Zen has made a conscious decision to go with selling to a smaller user base at a greater profit rather than targeting the largest possible user base. But if Pinball Royale is (conceivably) multiplayer and if, like other Royale games, it requires enough players playing at the same time to be a usable feature then they are undercutting their own product by keeping it restricted to one platform. Does Pinball Royale matter as a selling feature if no one is playing it? Sure, there could be cross platform multiplayer, but don't ALL users want the most people playing? Aren't you just as upset as a PS5 owner if you cant get Royale games because the PC user base isn't there either? </p><p></p><p>BTW 3 "shows" now and now new Bally/Williams/other re-creation tables announced. We've essentially gotten one new table announced this whole time and it's the collectable star wars VR table. 3 years ago i was all over team Zen and FX2/3. I can safely say the honeymoon is over.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Narc0lep5y, post: 296049, member: 5223"] Solid No. The Epic store is terrible. 40% owned by TenCent. A terrible interface, poor shopping experience, no gift card support, especially when they've already been hacked make it a net negative user experience. I wont buy anything on Epic and this isn't convincing me otherwise. Happy to take all their free giveaways but wont give them a credit card. Don't you love that we get both an Xbox and a PS5 version without platform exclusivity but PC, the most open platform, has the least amount of purchase options? Zen is OK paying Sony and Microsoft their "cut" to get on those platforms, but Steam is too restrictive? I could turn this into an economics of games publishing discussion from my former job experience but I can safely say that Steam is not charging anything outrageously more for their platform and Epic is just undercutting them with an inferior product. Edit: Unreal Engine probably adds some pressure from Epic to put it on store or some additional incentives. I understand the move more from Zen’s perspective for the engine but still hate the move as a consumer. End edit. But personal PC store front preferences aside, this move doesn't really make sense for the product either. Steam has the higher user base. Epic charges less to the publisher so Zen has made a conscious decision to go with selling to a smaller user base at a greater profit rather than targeting the largest possible user base. But if Pinball Royale is (conceivably) multiplayer and if, like other Royale games, it requires enough players playing at the same time to be a usable feature then they are undercutting their own product by keeping it restricted to one platform. Does Pinball Royale matter as a selling feature if no one is playing it? Sure, there could be cross platform multiplayer, but don't ALL users want the most people playing? Aren't you just as upset as a PS5 owner if you cant get Royale games because the PC user base isn't there either? BTW 3 "shows" now and now new Bally/Williams/other re-creation tables announced. We've essentially gotten one new table announced this whole time and it's the collectable star wars VR table. 3 years ago i was all over team Zen and FX2/3. I can safely say the honeymoon is over. [/QUOTE]
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