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<blockquote data-quote="FunktionJCB" data-source="post: 296106" data-attributes="member: 7504"><p>But I was. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>I use Steam since day one (I even pre-registered the account, during a pre-launch period where you could reserve you names).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>...while Valve takes no cut on the keys you sell outside of Steam. Say, if a developer sells Steam keys on the game's official website (or another authorized store), Valve gets nothing from those Steam keys. For many games that ends up balancing this distribution.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since when the lack of forums and reviews is a positive?</p><p>Say what you want about the Steam forums, but I met plenty of people there to play with, and I found plenty of solutions to problems I was experiencing there, so despite some toxic people (that exist pretty much everywhere on the internet), I think the positives far outweigh the negatives.</p><p></p><p>As for the lack of reviews, how is that a positive? Seeing if users have a positive or negative impression of a game is bad, exactly why?</p><p>Should developers live in a bubble, shielded from any feedback?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You do know Steam isn't a DRM solution, right? It has one included, but you are not forced to use any form of DRM with your games on Steam.</p><p>I have plenty of games on Steam that are fully DRM-free. I download them, and I can play them offline, without Steam even installed, I can copy them to another PC, (...)</p><p></p><p></p><p>I see this speech for every EGS exclusive. I'm yet to see a game where that actually was true.</p><p></p><p>Speaking of Zen, they said the same thing about Operencia, their first exclusive. I was a beta tester (on Steam) for the game. The game barely changed.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>I understand you have no problems with the move, and are fully on board no matter what Zen does, or where it takes the game.</p><p></p><p>In my case, I personally think it's a very crappy move to throw away an existing community, to take the game to a place where there's not even any community features.</p><p></p><p>And, speaking personally, after what Epic did with a few games I crowdfunded, they ensured I'm never using their store. I buy and play games on Steam, GOG, Origin, Uplay, Humble, itch.io, and plenty of other places, so I'm no stranger to using platforms outside of Steam. But, I refuse to support a company that thinks they can force me into using their crappy store at any cost.</p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>Oh well, thankfully I have the full collection of Zaccaria Pinball tables, the full collection of Pinball Arcade tables (including plenty of tables that probably won't ever make it to FX), and pretty much everything pinball-related available on Steam (even a... Strip Pinball game! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" />), so if Zen doesn't want my money, I'm fine with it.</p><p></p><p>I just wish a new player would come around, and start releasing some competing tables. With FarSight gone, I would gladly welcome if the guys at Magic Pixel would take over the licensing to Stern/Gottlieb tables, or some other brand currently under-represented.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FunktionJCB, post: 296106, member: 7504"] But I was. :) I use Steam since day one (I even pre-registered the account, during a pre-launch period where you could reserve you names). ...while Valve takes no cut on the keys you sell outside of Steam. Say, if a developer sells Steam keys on the game's official website (or another authorized store), Valve gets nothing from those Steam keys. For many games that ends up balancing this distribution. Since when the lack of forums and reviews is a positive? Say what you want about the Steam forums, but I met plenty of people there to play with, and I found plenty of solutions to problems I was experiencing there, so despite some toxic people (that exist pretty much everywhere on the internet), I think the positives far outweigh the negatives. As for the lack of reviews, how is that a positive? Seeing if users have a positive or negative impression of a game is bad, exactly why? Should developers live in a bubble, shielded from any feedback? You do know Steam isn't a DRM solution, right? It has one included, but you are not forced to use any form of DRM with your games on Steam. I have plenty of games on Steam that are fully DRM-free. I download them, and I can play them offline, without Steam even installed, I can copy them to another PC, (...) I see this speech for every EGS exclusive. I'm yet to see a game where that actually was true. Speaking of Zen, they said the same thing about Operencia, their first exclusive. I was a beta tester (on Steam) for the game. The game barely changed. --- I understand you have no problems with the move, and are fully on board no matter what Zen does, or where it takes the game. In my case, I personally think it's a very crappy move to throw away an existing community, to take the game to a place where there's not even any community features. And, speaking personally, after what Epic did with a few games I crowdfunded, they ensured I'm never using their store. I buy and play games on Steam, GOG, Origin, Uplay, Humble, itch.io, and plenty of other places, so I'm no stranger to using platforms outside of Steam. But, I refuse to support a company that thinks they can force me into using their crappy store at any cost. --- Oh well, thankfully I have the full collection of Zaccaria Pinball tables, the full collection of Pinball Arcade tables (including plenty of tables that probably won't ever make it to FX), and pretty much everything pinball-related available on Steam (even a... Strip Pinball game! :cool:), so if Zen doesn't want my money, I'm fine with it. I just wish a new player would come around, and start releasing some competing tables. With FarSight gone, I would gladly welcome if the guys at Magic Pixel would take over the licensing to Stern/Gottlieb tables, or some other brand currently under-represented. [/QUOTE]
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