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Pinball FX2 is coming to Xbox One on July 31! BUT.....
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<blockquote data-quote="Nightwing" data-source="post: 159620" data-attributes="member: 976"><p>Yes,it's been the industry norm. And,yes - I understand all about licensing. Usually I don't have a problem with that. Maybe I didn't explain myself fully...</p><p></p><p><em><strong>My issue</strong></em> is that Zen made it possible for PS4 owners to get Pinball FX tables free on the new system if they owned that same table on the PS3. So,in effect - PS4 players get a free game. Which would be fine...if Zen offered the same kind of upgrade deal with the Xbox platforms - the older 360 & the newer One.</p><p></p><p>To me - this isn't some console limited exclusive DLC. Offering something this big for one platform while <em><strong>not offering</strong></em> it for the other system is just wrong. The PS4 & the XOne are the main platforms when it comes to TV game playing - it's not different enough. (iOS & PS3 - that would be different enough - mobile/console) So,IMHO - either Zen or MS just gave a big middle finger to the people who are Xbox users.</p><p></p><p>I'd actually be happier if there was no free upgrade for Playstation. At least then it would be a fair & level playfield in console land. (Of course - I'd feel different if I was mainly a PS user,and I'm certainly not knocking those platforms)</p><p></p><p>If it is the right game - then I have no problem buying the game on muitlple different systems. I'll probably get the Halo Master Chief collection on the Xbox One,even though I own all the other Halo games for the Xbox/Xbox 360. I also own TPA on multiple platforms - iOS for mobility - Xbox 360 for TV game console,and since I finally got around to upgrading my PC - that as well. Honestly - I was only going to get just the launch tables for a penny during the Steam sale,but I loved playing that version of TPA so much that I bought Season one during the Steam sale. So I'm not adverse to buying a game multiple times.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But anyone who tells me that I shouldn't complain or be mad because of the way Pinball FX2 is being released on the newer consoles is just plain wrong. Everyone has their opinion - fine. My opinion - I'm pissed because I'm an Xbox user who owns every Pinball FX table that has ever been released on the 360, and I'll have to pay full price to play those tables on MS's newer system - the Xbox One. Which would be fine...</p><p></p><p>...if I didn't know that the Xbox's main competeor - Sony's Playstation - was offering a free upgrade path for users of their service. It's really that simple. Will I still get Pinball FX2 for the Xbox One? Yes - Zen has a fun product that is different then other pinball games - and since the One should be around a lot longer than the 360 - I'll start buying new tables for the former rather than the latter. But any favorite tables (like Captain America) that I own on the 360 already will stay there unless there is a future sale of some sort & I feel like buying that table again on the newer system.</p><p></p><p>At least I'm not the only one upset with Zen/MS. Both companies have been taken to task at forums for both places,as well as other places on the web. Zen seems to be blaming MS for this,as they have said they will be sending all comments on this issue onto to Microsoft. So - who knows what will happen in the future?</p><p></p><p>In the meantime,though - my mind is made up. I'll spend my gaming dollars elsewhere.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nightwing, post: 159620, member: 976"] Yes,it's been the industry norm. And,yes - I understand all about licensing. Usually I don't have a problem with that. Maybe I didn't explain myself fully... [I][B]My issue[/B][/I] is that Zen made it possible for PS4 owners to get Pinball FX tables free on the new system if they owned that same table on the PS3. So,in effect - PS4 players get a free game. Which would be fine...if Zen offered the same kind of upgrade deal with the Xbox platforms - the older 360 & the newer One. To me - this isn't some console limited exclusive DLC. Offering something this big for one platform while [I][B]not offering[/B][/I] it for the other system is just wrong. The PS4 & the XOne are the main platforms when it comes to TV game playing - it's not different enough. (iOS & PS3 - that would be different enough - mobile/console) So,IMHO - either Zen or MS just gave a big middle finger to the people who are Xbox users. I'd actually be happier if there was no free upgrade for Playstation. At least then it would be a fair & level playfield in console land. (Of course - I'd feel different if I was mainly a PS user,and I'm certainly not knocking those platforms) If it is the right game - then I have no problem buying the game on muitlple different systems. I'll probably get the Halo Master Chief collection on the Xbox One,even though I own all the other Halo games for the Xbox/Xbox 360. I also own TPA on multiple platforms - iOS for mobility - Xbox 360 for TV game console,and since I finally got around to upgrading my PC - that as well. Honestly - I was only going to get just the launch tables for a penny during the Steam sale,but I loved playing that version of TPA so much that I bought Season one during the Steam sale. So I'm not adverse to buying a game multiple times. But anyone who tells me that I shouldn't complain or be mad because of the way Pinball FX2 is being released on the newer consoles is just plain wrong. Everyone has their opinion - fine. My opinion - I'm pissed because I'm an Xbox user who owns every Pinball FX table that has ever been released on the 360, and I'll have to pay full price to play those tables on MS's newer system - the Xbox One. Which would be fine... ...if I didn't know that the Xbox's main competeor - Sony's Playstation - was offering a free upgrade path for users of their service. It's really that simple. Will I still get Pinball FX2 for the Xbox One? Yes - Zen has a fun product that is different then other pinball games - and since the One should be around a lot longer than the 360 - I'll start buying new tables for the former rather than the latter. But any favorite tables (like Captain America) that I own on the 360 already will stay there unless there is a future sale of some sort & I feel like buying that table again on the newer system. At least I'm not the only one upset with Zen/MS. Both companies have been taken to task at forums for both places,as well as other places on the web. Zen seems to be blaming MS for this,as they have said they will be sending all comments on this issue onto to Microsoft. So - who knows what will happen in the future? In the meantime,though - my mind is made up. I'll spend my gaming dollars elsewhere. [/QUOTE]
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