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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pinballfan69" data-source="post: 26312" data-attributes="member: 221">Trial? First buy for me no doubt. That and TPA DLC #3.I think players should look past the 'gimmicks' and view the tables more for how deep they really can be. Sorcerer's lair is one of those table that people can easily get in to yet pinball wizards can master it by getting all the obsidian stones.  I know I have had difficulty getting to the 'wizard mode in many of the tables like Earth Defense, Excalibur, MARS. There are table that have wizard modes that are tough to get to and difficult to beat. (Iron Man and in some cases Fear Itself) which is one of my favorite things about Zen's games.I know many of TPAs tables don't have wizard modes per say. I do find them easier to get to and complete as I've done all the goals necessary for all the table I have. In most cases for Zen I have not completed everything for the trophies. That is why I'm enjoying Zen more. Although I think. ZvP will cater more to the casual audience because of the theme but I think with the way you purchase plants and the way you use the money by getting into the trunk of Crazy Dave's Car, can open some interesting options to score high on this table.</blockquote>

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