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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rafie" data-source="post: 29448" data-attributes="member: 868">Oh trust me. They are a challenge to complete. Those tables you named alone are the most challenging. You can add Shaman and El Dorado to this list as well. Earth Defense is horrifying to complete. I did it once on 360 before I found out that I could have had beaten a friend's score. It was bad. I raged on that table. Getting all the medals is no easy feat. Mars...need I say more. Deactivating the Pyramid system alone is tough. Iron Man has become easier, however killing Ultimo is still a pain in the arse. On Fear Itself, I can beat the Worthy, but I keep draining right when its time to face Skadi. That table is tough too. I really don't understand the Zen vs FS arguments or why people feel that they have to choose just 1 dev over the other. Why don't you just enjoy them both for the content that has been brought?!Anyway, PvZ wasn't meant to be hard. It's as easy as they come. A lot of people didn't like how easy it is. I believe that some of you are correct by saying that they (Zen) are trying to reach the casual audience and bringing them over to the pinball genre. Its a win for both FS and Zen. I know at least 4 people who wasn't into pinball at all, but came over to my place and saw me playing Zen and got hooked immediately. Then I turned around and played TPA and they instantly wanted to get it on their consoles. See what I mean?</blockquote>

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