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<blockquote data-quote="Roo" data-source="post: 103741" data-attributes="member: 3068"><p>Are you also seeing a change in smoothness on the silver border around the menus with post-processing on/off? I use to see that - I could sit in the pause menu flipping it on/off and see a change in the menu border and around the logos. I thought maybe it was related to the fact that the AA wasn't working when post processing was on (although I don't know how/if AA affects 2D assets). This is no longer happening for me though, but I'm not sure if it's related to a new build or moving from 1680 x 1050 to 1920 x 1080.</p><p></p><p>But even your "PP off" screenshots still don't look right to me. It's most obvious on the Flight 2000 logo. There shouldn't be those black "stair step" edges inside the red area along the white lines. Look at this <a href="http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=887&picno=35595&zoom=1" target="_blank">pic of the real logo</a>. There is no black in there. Compression wouldn't add black color that's not there. Actually, you can see compression in that pic I linked - inside the blue area all along the white lines. It just looks a little fuzzy - no hard black corners/specs.</p><p></p><p>You can still see it in Gorgar as well, particularly in the tails of the G's.</p><p></p><p>On my machine, regardless of the PP setting, the logos look like your "PP off" pics in the table select menu and like your "PP on" pics once you load a table and are in "attract mode" before you start a game. Here's a screenshot of that:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://s789.photobucket.com/user/andrewpmarks/media/TPABeta-Flight2000Logo-small.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy173/andrewpmarks/TPABeta-Flight2000Logo-small.jpg~original" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><p></p><p>Notice how much better the logo on the backglass itself looks. It's interesting that the same logo looks so much worse in the table than at the table selection menu. I actually measured with a ruler on my monitor and they are being displayed at nearly the same size, but not quite. So you might be right about scaling.</p><p></p><p>I actually think it looks like the same <a href="http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/5445-Low-Quality-Playfield-Art-(%3Cacronym%20title=" target="_blank">issue I reported awhile back</a> about the AFM playfield. Same black "stair step" effect that destroys what should be crisp lines.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Roo, post: 103741, member: 3068"] Are you also seeing a change in smoothness on the silver border around the menus with post-processing on/off? I use to see that - I could sit in the pause menu flipping it on/off and see a change in the menu border and around the logos. I thought maybe it was related to the fact that the AA wasn't working when post processing was on (although I don't know how/if AA affects 2D assets). This is no longer happening for me though, but I'm not sure if it's related to a new build or moving from 1680 x 1050 to 1920 x 1080. But even your "PP off" screenshots still don't look right to me. It's most obvious on the Flight 2000 logo. There shouldn't be those black "stair step" edges inside the red area along the white lines. Look at this [URL="http://www.ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=887&picno=35595&zoom=1"]pic of the real logo[/URL]. There is no black in there. Compression wouldn't add black color that's not there. Actually, you can see compression in that pic I linked - inside the blue area all along the white lines. It just looks a little fuzzy - no hard black corners/specs. You can still see it in Gorgar as well, particularly in the tails of the G's. On my machine, regardless of the PP setting, the logos look like your "PP off" pics in the table select menu and like your "PP on" pics once you load a table and are in "attract mode" before you start a game. Here's a screenshot of that: [URL=http://s789.photobucket.com/user/andrewpmarks/media/TPABeta-Flight2000Logo-small.jpg.html][IMG]http://i789.photobucket.com/albums/yy173/andrewpmarks/TPABeta-Flight2000Logo-small.jpg~original[/IMG][/URL] Notice how much better the logo on the backglass itself looks. It's interesting that the same logo looks so much worse in the table than at the table selection menu. I actually measured with a ruler on my monitor and they are being displayed at nearly the same size, but not quite. So you might be right about scaling. I actually think it looks like the same [URL="http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/5445-Low-Quality-Playfield-Art-(%3Cacronym%20title="]issue I reported awhile back[/URL] about the AFM playfield. Same black "stair step" effect that destroys what should be crisp lines. [/QUOTE]
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