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<blockquote data-quote="cmotors" data-source="post: 10071" data-attributes="member: 564"><p>That's a good question. It doesn't necessarily mean that the TV is itself the problem though. If this were the only evidence on the table, then we would have to concur that the issue is an innate TV lag causing it. However, it is not the only evidence. You can't erase one set of evidence because it doesn't fit the story. If you accept the evidence that TV response lag is not the problem, and the evidence that you don't have the issue on the monitor, then it points to something else happening that we don't have enough knowledge to explain why it is happening. Since we don't have an explainable idea of what is specifically causing the issue, it doesn't mean you stop accepting certain pieces of evidence in order to make everything fit what knowledge you do have. There is a piece of information missing from what we know about these types of problems, and my guess it is something that Pinball Arcade does in the background that we have no knowledge of. It isn't caused by scaling between 720 and 1080 since it doesn't resolve the issue. Only the developers would really know what is going on in this case since it seems we have exhausted the possibilities that we are aware of, with no unanimous resolution of the problem. When you have sets of evidence that are all confirmed correct and they don't seem to make sense when put together, it usually means that there is some piece of information missing that would make it all make sense. That appears to be the case here.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The assumption here is that the monitor is somehow doing better since it somehow is not causing any lag. This is a simplistic view, and it is an assumption only. The monitor is indeed allowing you to play lag free, so I am not disagreeing with you that it removes the problem since other people have said the same thing as well. But, is it because the monitor is not introducing lag, or is it because the pinball arcade game is reacting differently on the screen because of its size (and not because of 720p/1080p scaling either) or some other unknown factor? It comes down to this, if you have to play ALL of your ps3 games on the monitor because you have lag on ALL of them played on the TV, then I would agree that innate TV lag is the cause. If it is ONLY TPA that has to be played on the monitor, then innate TV lag is NOT the problem. To be honest, I personally think that fragmentation of the evidence is the real cause of the confusion here. Picking and choosing evidence based on assumptions and lack of information will not steer true.</p><p></p><p>I don't experience lag on zen or marvel pinball, so I know my TV is not introducing the lag. I'm sure if I connect to a monitor, I won't experience the issue with TPA. Doesn't necassarily mean that innate TV lag is the issue though</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cmotors, post: 10071, member: 564"] That's a good question. It doesn't necessarily mean that the TV is itself the problem though. If this were the only evidence on the table, then we would have to concur that the issue is an innate TV lag causing it. However, it is not the only evidence. You can't erase one set of evidence because it doesn't fit the story. If you accept the evidence that TV response lag is not the problem, and the evidence that you don't have the issue on the monitor, then it points to something else happening that we don't have enough knowledge to explain why it is happening. Since we don't have an explainable idea of what is specifically causing the issue, it doesn't mean you stop accepting certain pieces of evidence in order to make everything fit what knowledge you do have. There is a piece of information missing from what we know about these types of problems, and my guess it is something that Pinball Arcade does in the background that we have no knowledge of. It isn't caused by scaling between 720 and 1080 since it doesn't resolve the issue. Only the developers would really know what is going on in this case since it seems we have exhausted the possibilities that we are aware of, with no unanimous resolution of the problem. When you have sets of evidence that are all confirmed correct and they don't seem to make sense when put together, it usually means that there is some piece of information missing that would make it all make sense. That appears to be the case here. The assumption here is that the monitor is somehow doing better since it somehow is not causing any lag. This is a simplistic view, and it is an assumption only. The monitor is indeed allowing you to play lag free, so I am not disagreeing with you that it removes the problem since other people have said the same thing as well. But, is it because the monitor is not introducing lag, or is it because the pinball arcade game is reacting differently on the screen because of its size (and not because of 720p/1080p scaling either) or some other unknown factor? It comes down to this, if you have to play ALL of your ps3 games on the monitor because you have lag on ALL of them played on the TV, then I would agree that innate TV lag is the cause. If it is ONLY TPA that has to be played on the monitor, then innate TV lag is NOT the problem. To be honest, I personally think that fragmentation of the evidence is the real cause of the confusion here. Picking and choosing evidence based on assumptions and lack of information will not steer true. I don't experience lag on zen or marvel pinball, so I know my TV is not introducing the lag. I'm sure if I connect to a monitor, I won't experience the issue with TPA. Doesn't necassarily mean that innate TV lag is the issue though [/QUOTE]
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