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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BonzoGonzo" data-source="post: 10104" data-attributes="member: 635">1st post after lurking for months yay!!! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite9" alt=":eek:" title="Eek!    :eek:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":eek:" />on topic: that would have been the case 20 years ago on old cathode ray tvs, not today <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> 60hz is standard for many years nowslightly off topic: about lag in general...the biggest culprit is ususally the display that the console is connected to...i play fighting games, where lag is a reall killer becouse of the correct input timing for moves and combos (with your 3 frame moves, 1 or 0 frame links and so on) so i have my xbox360 (which i bought for street fighter 4) connected via vga to a lg w2442pa 24 inch widescreen 1080p monitor... this monitor is very good, and has very little display lag which averages at around ~4-5ms, where 1 frame is ~16ms, so i get less than half a frame delay... that makes it a viable monitor for fighting games, shoot em ups (especialy true becouse of the available portrait mode on the lg) and of course pinball. now the point i'm trying to make is, with these kind of games, especialy pinball, you reeeeeealy feel the lag on a display that has one (lag that is).for example i played pinball fx1/2 on a 60 hz cathode ray tv, plasma tv, 2 lg computer monitors, lcd tv and a led tv... the smallest lag (none) was on the cathode ray and my lg... the other lg was worse, then lcd tv, then led tv, and absolutley worst was the old plasma tv... coz you can really feel the difference -> the same speed of the ball, at the same position on the flipper, at the same time of me pressing the button just didn't yield the same results, or better, the angle of the shot was way off... more lag = less proper ball controland there is one more thing with lag, which is wery noticeable -> wireless vs wiredwhen i forgot to recharge (which i usually don't) and my batteries flated out on the xbox360 controler, i plugged in my wired xbox360 contorler which i use mainly for my pc... and hey presto, the wired controller was much snappier i.e. less laggy, so i had to actually reajust my timing, becouse i was pressing the buttons a tad too soon <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />so yeah... most people actually don't see or feel the difference, so for them lag does'nt exist... the problems only arise when you DO feel the lag and its messing up your gameplay <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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