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<blockquote data-quote="DokkenRokken" data-source="post: 156735" data-attributes="member: 4295"><p>I'm not sure how you get 25% out of 100% being "not bad at all"? To me, and I think most people, that's a pretty low percent. Regardless, again, I do agree there are quite a few great early 80's tables out there that need to be done, and that I'd love to see. ("Sorcerer", Xenon", etc just to name a few) The thing is, the number of those most wanted, early 80's table among the general TPA fans are nowhere near as high as the amount of people who want the mid to late 80s- late 90s tables. As much as I agree with you about how DMD doesn't make a great table, it's the DMD tables that the general masses want the most.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Honestly, because some of the things said around here are just flat out ridiculous. From the big debate over why Farsight didn't make EBD over CBW, to the debate over why EM's don't get made, to now this. It's like nobody truly takes into account what Farsight says. I remember people were going on and on about how Farsight only chose CBW over EBD because they ran out of tables on the Williams/Bally deal, even though Farsight, word for word, stated "We chose CBW because we thought it was more fun" and that more people requested it. Even after posting that quote, people were like "No, that's not true!" lol The same goes for the reason why EM's don't get made. I'm not sure how many times Farsight has to keep telling people "They don't sell, they're not that popular" before they finally stop arguing about it. I literally compare this silly stuff to the Climate Control debate. You can show people all the facts in the world, yet they're still going to debate it, which drives me crazy, which is why I continue to participate. lol</p><p></p><p>I will agree that the Moderation, for the most part, has been improved around here lately. It's nice to be able to have a healthy and even somewhat heated debate without people getting banned.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>It's funny, I once asked Farsight why "Rescue 911" hasn't been made over choices like "Lights, Camera, Action!", esp when "Rescue 911 is heavily requested? The response I got was basically "We've rarely seen a request for 'Rescue 911'." When I pointed out how great it did in the Gottlieb Top Ten Poll (Ahead of LCA, mind you), and showed them all the endless requests posts for it on the FB page, they were stunned. So, I'm not surprised why you claim only 1 person really wants "Freddy", even though it gets requested on a weekly basis. In fact, Farsight has officially stated on the page that they are aware of all the requests and have started to look into seeing what it would take to acquire it.</p><p></p><p>I will, however, give you that of course the table is not as fun as something like BSD. First off, it's a Gottlieb table. Secondly, of course it's not going to do great in a Premium Poll against the likes of "Indiana Jones, The Simpsons, Lord Of The Rings, etc etc etc. lol However, your claim that only one person really wants it is just ridiculous. lol The license, all on it's own, will sell. I don't ever recall politicians, actors, or your next door neighbors using references of BSD, as they all do about "A Nightmare On Elm Street" in some sort of way. The character is a world wide famous movie icon, and that stuff sells itself. As for the table, it's one of the very, very few Gottlieb tables that is fun and that a lot of people enjoy. ("Stargate" is another that comes to mind)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, we agree, as I buy every single table they put out, regardless if I like it or not. I'll always support Farsight, and it never hurts to have a variety of tables for friends and family who come over and want to play. </p><p></p><p>My issue in these debates, have always been, about factual statements. Again, the reason why we don't seen a ton of early 80's tables is because unfortunately they're not anywhere close to being as popular as the mid to late 80s-late 90s tables, and the fact that the majority of the tables already included in TPA are mid to late 80s-late 90s tables speaks for itself. I even recently made a Most Wanted Season 4 table poll, included a wide variety of tables from the early 80s to mid 90s, and the majority of the early 80s tables I have in there haven't been doing so well, and these are tables that everyone here and on the FB are voting for. (Not to mention Farsight has recently said that they ARE keeping an eye on that poll for next season.)</p><p></p><p>At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what either one of us say, we'll let Farsight speak for us, just like they did when they chose CBW over EBD, or when they suddenly stopped making EMs.</p><p></p><p>As for THIS poll, I'm thrilled that TSPP is killing. It's a fun table, a fun license, and I think it would sell like crazy for the company.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DokkenRokken, post: 156735, member: 4295"] I'm not sure how you get 25% out of 100% being "not bad at all"? To me, and I think most people, that's a pretty low percent. Regardless, again, I do agree there are quite a few great early 80's tables out there that need to be done, and that I'd love to see. ("Sorcerer", Xenon", etc just to name a few) The thing is, the number of those most wanted, early 80's table among the general TPA fans are nowhere near as high as the amount of people who want the mid to late 80s- late 90s tables. As much as I agree with you about how DMD doesn't make a great table, it's the DMD tables that the general masses want the most. Honestly, because some of the things said around here are just flat out ridiculous. From the big debate over why Farsight didn't make EBD over CBW, to the debate over why EM's don't get made, to now this. It's like nobody truly takes into account what Farsight says. I remember people were going on and on about how Farsight only chose CBW over EBD because they ran out of tables on the Williams/Bally deal, even though Farsight, word for word, stated "We chose CBW because we thought it was more fun" and that more people requested it. Even after posting that quote, people were like "No, that's not true!" lol The same goes for the reason why EM's don't get made. I'm not sure how many times Farsight has to keep telling people "They don't sell, they're not that popular" before they finally stop arguing about it. I literally compare this silly stuff to the Climate Control debate. You can show people all the facts in the world, yet they're still going to debate it, which drives me crazy, which is why I continue to participate. lol I will agree that the Moderation, for the most part, has been improved around here lately. It's nice to be able to have a healthy and even somewhat heated debate without people getting banned. It's funny, I once asked Farsight why "Rescue 911" hasn't been made over choices like "Lights, Camera, Action!", esp when "Rescue 911 is heavily requested? The response I got was basically "We've rarely seen a request for 'Rescue 911'." When I pointed out how great it did in the Gottlieb Top Ten Poll (Ahead of LCA, mind you), and showed them all the endless requests posts for it on the FB page, they were stunned. So, I'm not surprised why you claim only 1 person really wants "Freddy", even though it gets requested on a weekly basis. In fact, Farsight has officially stated on the page that they are aware of all the requests and have started to look into seeing what it would take to acquire it. I will, however, give you that of course the table is not as fun as something like BSD. First off, it's a Gottlieb table. Secondly, of course it's not going to do great in a Premium Poll against the likes of "Indiana Jones, The Simpsons, Lord Of The Rings, etc etc etc. lol However, your claim that only one person really wants it is just ridiculous. lol The license, all on it's own, will sell. I don't ever recall politicians, actors, or your next door neighbors using references of BSD, as they all do about "A Nightmare On Elm Street" in some sort of way. The character is a world wide famous movie icon, and that stuff sells itself. As for the table, it's one of the very, very few Gottlieb tables that is fun and that a lot of people enjoy. ("Stargate" is another that comes to mind) Again, we agree, as I buy every single table they put out, regardless if I like it or not. I'll always support Farsight, and it never hurts to have a variety of tables for friends and family who come over and want to play. My issue in these debates, have always been, about factual statements. Again, the reason why we don't seen a ton of early 80's tables is because unfortunately they're not anywhere close to being as popular as the mid to late 80s-late 90s tables, and the fact that the majority of the tables already included in TPA are mid to late 80s-late 90s tables speaks for itself. I even recently made a Most Wanted Season 4 table poll, included a wide variety of tables from the early 80s to mid 90s, and the majority of the early 80s tables I have in there haven't been doing so well, and these are tables that everyone here and on the FB are voting for. (Not to mention Farsight has recently said that they ARE keeping an eye on that poll for next season.) At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what either one of us say, we'll let Farsight speak for us, just like they did when they chose CBW over EBD, or when they suddenly stopped making EMs. As for THIS poll, I'm thrilled that TSPP is killing. It's a fun table, a fun license, and I think it would sell like crazy for the company. [/QUOTE]
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