Search titles only
By:
Home
Forums
New posts
Search forums
Articles
New articles
New comments
Search articles
Pinball DB
Pinball Tables
Pinball Games
What's new
New posts
New articles
New profile posts
New article comments
Latest activity
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More options
Contact us
Close Menu
Welcome Back to Digital Pinball Fans -
please read this first
For latest updates, follow Digital Pinball Fans on
Facebook
and
Twitter
Home
Forums
Other Talk
Off-Topic/Forum Discussion
So I just got done watching Tilt: The Battle to Save Pinball.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Mark W**a" data-source="post: 30506" data-attributes="member: 1196"><p>Great documentary. I learned so much. </p><p></p><p>So Sega became Stern and they are the last ones standing... Were there any famous designers or good designers at Sega, before they started buying Pat Lawler/Steve Richie etc. designs for their machines post Williams? Because I have played Star Ship Troopers and found it enjoyable. Also I think South Park is popular with collectors.</p><p></p><p>I remember Revenge from Mars. I was only 15 when it came out, but I remember I thought the technology on it was great. But I do remember not putting much play on it in favor of some other DMD machine they had at the arcade.</p><p></p><p>7,000 units sold, that's a pretty big number, making it a sizable hit for a pinball, no? Star Wars would have been a 10,000 seller on the license alone, but they mistimed it and it's a shame. The team had such little room for error.</p><p></p><p>This documentary reminds me why I hate business. It's so heartless to basically take a group of guys who has for years made you MILLIONS of dollars, and to treat them the way they did and just brush it all under the rug in favor of slot machines when things turned sour. And even from a business perspective, they missed out on the emergence of the collectors market that Stern now enjoys. Probably small potatoes to WMS, but profit is profit and Stern get's by, clearly Williams made the wrong move both from a business perspective and especially from a people-perspective.</p><p></p><p>And the failure of Star Wars was a direct result of incompetent management and marketing people. They shipped the game well after the movie had lost popularity, despite the fact that they had the game ready to go, over some strange thing where "Europe has to have the machines first"? Yeah, the games quality itself wasn't all that, and the designers admit it, but that's not why it failed. And it even managed to ship 5k despite all that.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mark W**a, post: 30506, member: 1196"] Great documentary. I learned so much. So Sega became Stern and they are the last ones standing... Were there any famous designers or good designers at Sega, before they started buying Pat Lawler/Steve Richie etc. designs for their machines post Williams? Because I have played Star Ship Troopers and found it enjoyable. Also I think South Park is popular with collectors. I remember Revenge from Mars. I was only 15 when it came out, but I remember I thought the technology on it was great. But I do remember not putting much play on it in favor of some other DMD machine they had at the arcade. 7,000 units sold, that's a pretty big number, making it a sizable hit for a pinball, no? Star Wars would have been a 10,000 seller on the license alone, but they mistimed it and it's a shame. The team had such little room for error. This documentary reminds me why I hate business. It's so heartless to basically take a group of guys who has for years made you MILLIONS of dollars, and to treat them the way they did and just brush it all under the rug in favor of slot machines when things turned sour. And even from a business perspective, they missed out on the emergence of the collectors market that Stern now enjoys. Probably small potatoes to WMS, but profit is profit and Stern get's by, clearly Williams made the wrong move both from a business perspective and especially from a people-perspective. And the failure of Star Wars was a direct result of incompetent management and marketing people. They shipped the game well after the movie had lost popularity, despite the fact that they had the game ready to go, over some strange thing where "Europe has to have the machines first"? Yeah, the games quality itself wasn't all that, and the designers admit it, but that's not why it failed. And it even managed to ship 5k despite all that. [/QUOTE]
Verification
Post reply
Members online
No members online now.
Latest posts
Sale speculation thread
Latest: gameaddict4life
Saturday at 12:46 AM
Pinball FX (4)
Master List of Issues: Pinball FX
Latest: gameaddict4life
Saturday at 12:40 AM
Pinball FX (4)
Home
Forums
Other Talk
Off-Topic/Forum Discussion
So I just got done watching Tilt: The Battle to Save Pinball.
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top