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<blockquote data-quote="Narc0lep5y" data-source="post: 279502" data-attributes="member: 5223">Got it installed - have to sign into account to play which isn't really great for a free title.&nbsp; You literally can't do anything until you log in.&nbsp; even when you've logged in and it's saved your log in info, the button still says Login to start the game. Not Start.&nbsp; Not Play.&nbsp; Login.&nbsp; Creating an account before you can do anything in game is just going to have people install and walk away.&nbsp; That's the biggest gripe on the Oculus store reviews and i can see why.The good news is that we get the LE versions of the new-for-SPA releases. The bad news is that each one is $10.&nbsp; Contrary to the press release, there are no $5 tables.&nbsp; Whoa Nellie and Big Buck Hunter aren't in here either.&nbsp; I put a table list below.&nbsp; The token system is, um, not interesting to me yet.&nbsp; Maybe it will interest me later.&nbsp; It's a completely different model than I'm used to for Digital pinball.&nbsp; I just want to just dive in and play not have to worry about some other mechanic, so I'm naturally turned off by it. It plays well.&nbsp; Graphics are gorgeous.&nbsp; I could bend down and read the text on the instruction cards.&nbsp; The immersion is so good that using the rift touch controllers kind of takes you out of it.&nbsp; You're standing right there at the table and yet you want to reach down and grab the side or pull the plunger but can't.&nbsp; VR is still the best way to play virtual pinball and it shows well here.&nbsp; Speed is a little, I'll call it, spongy.&nbsp; I'm not well versed enough on any of these tables in TPA or SPA to tell you if it's better or different than those.&nbsp; The In game leaderboards are the same ones for non VR.&nbsp; So much for my chance to get top 10 because only 9 people bought the game.&nbsp; Table&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; PriceFrankenstein&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; FreeRBioiN&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Starship Troopers&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Last Action Hero&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Phantom Opera&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 High Roller Casino&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Harley Davidson&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; $9.99 AC/DC Premium&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 AC/DC: Back in Black&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 AC/DC: Let There Be Rock&nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Ghostbusters Premium&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Ghostbusters&nbsp; LE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Mustang Premium&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Mustang LE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Star Trek Premium&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Star Trek LE&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; $9.99 Ok.&nbsp; Now I waited to post and now I've gone and looked at the tokens.&nbsp; Not my thing but neither is dropping $150 for tables that aren't at the top of my must play list either. You start with 500 tokens.It's 50 tokens to play one game on any table you don't own.&nbsp; You earn tokens through gameplay and even just for being in the app.&nbsp; You can also buy tokens.&nbsp; There are 3 packs at $.99 $4.99 and $9.991000 tokens (Bronze pack) = $.99.&nbsp; A gold pack for $10 gets you 12000.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have 645 tokens and i played one game and started with 500.&nbsp; &nbsp; 1000 tokens can be traded in for one gold bar.&nbsp; You can buy tables for $9.99 or use 50 gold bars.&nbsp; Obviously the key here is to earn the tokens instead of buying them as buying tokens would take you $42 vs the straight $10 purchase.&nbsp;&nbsp; Maybe there's a balance of buying your favorite table(s) and using plays on that to earn tokens to eventually unlock others.&nbsp; The real question is whether or not this model will work on PC VR.&nbsp; It definitely feels like the mobile market. It's got me confused enough that I'm neither buying tables or tokens on my first play through which I don't think is the intended outcome.Clearly they spent all their time designing this token system instead of marketing and interface design.&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite11" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Narc0lep5y, post: 279502, member: 5223"] Got it installed - have to sign into account to play which isn't really great for a free title. You literally can't do anything until you log in. even when you've logged in and it's saved your log in info, the button still says Login to start the game. Not Start. Not Play. Login. Creating an account before you can do anything in game is just going to have people install and walk away. That's the biggest gripe on the Oculus store reviews and i can see why. The good news is that we get the LE versions of the new-for-SPA releases. The bad news is that each one is $10. Contrary to the press release, there are no $5 tables. Whoa Nellie and Big Buck Hunter aren't in here either. I put a table list below. The token system is, um, not interesting to me yet. Maybe it will interest me later. It's a completely different model than I'm used to for Digital pinball. I just want to just dive in and play not have to worry about some other mechanic, so I'm naturally turned off by it. It plays well. Graphics are gorgeous. I could bend down and read the text on the instruction cards. The immersion is so good that using the rift touch controllers kind of takes you out of it. You're standing right there at the table and yet you want to reach down and grab the side or pull the plunger but can't. VR is still the best way to play virtual pinball and it shows well here. Speed is a little, I'll call it, spongy. I'm not well versed enough on any of these tables in TPA or SPA to tell you if it's better or different than those. The In game leaderboards are the same ones for non VR. So much for my chance to get top 10 because only 9 people bought the game. [B][U]Table Price[/U][/B] Frankenstein Free RBioiN $9.99 Starship Troopers $9.99 Last Action Hero $9.99 Phantom Opera $9.99 High Roller Casino $9.99 Harley Davidson $9.99 AC/DC Premium $9.99 AC/DC: Back in Black $9.99 AC/DC: Let There Be Rock $9.99 Ghostbusters Premium $9.99 Ghostbusters LE $9.99 Mustang Premium $9.99 Mustang LE $9.99 Star Trek Premium $9.99 Star Trek LE $9.99 Ok. Now I waited to post and now I've gone and looked at the tokens. Not my thing but neither is dropping $150 for tables that aren't at the top of my must play list either. You start with 500 tokens. It's 50 tokens to play one game on any table you don't own. You earn tokens through gameplay and even just for being in the app. You can also buy tokens. There are 3 packs at $.99 $4.99 and $9.99 1000 tokens (Bronze pack) = $.99. A gold pack for $10 gets you 12000. I have 645 tokens and i played one game and started with 500. 1000 tokens can be traded in for one gold bar. You can buy tables for $9.99 or use 50 gold bars. Obviously the key here is to earn the tokens instead of buying them as buying tokens would take you $42 vs the straight $10 purchase. Maybe there's a balance of buying your favorite table(s) and using plays on that to earn tokens to eventually unlock others. The real question is whether or not this model will work on PC VR. It definitely feels like the mobile market. It's got me confused enough that I'm neither buying tables or tokens on my first play through which I don't think is the intended outcome. Clearly they spent all their time designing this token system instead of marketing and interface design. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

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