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<blockquote data-quote="VanceFox" data-source="post: 118501" data-attributes="member: 3267"><p>FarSight is not going to sell table individually (except for the Kickstarter tables, and I completely understand that one). The reason comes down to economics. They would, most likely, lose money if they did this. Allow me to demonstrate.</p><p></p><p>First off, let me say the following is proof of CONCEPT, not proof of reality. I do not have the time and energy to do market research, customer surveys, etc. to get the actual numbers to illustrate my point. I am using what I feel are fair example numbers to demonstrate the <em>concept</em>.</p><p></p><p>Second, we need to assume the following, which I feel is accurate. The price of a (non-Kickstarter) table pack is $5 for 2 tables. I believe the people arguing for individual sales are asking for $2.50 for one table. I can't imagine they would argue for $5 for 1 table as that would double the price of a full pack. The underlying premise of buying single tables is to save money not buying the stuff you don't want.</p><p></p><p>Okay, let's now play with the Devil's magic... math! (That was a math joke, please don't get upset.)</p><p></p><p>Let's pretend there are 1000 customers for TPA. When a new table pack comes out, there will always be a percentage of people that won't buy it because they don't like one (or both) of the tables. What percentage is that? I'm going to imagine we're talking about table pack #16 which included Flight 2000 and what may be the most maligned table in all of TPA... Goin' Nuts. Let's say because GN is so bad, 25% of the 1000 customers don't buy the pack. That means 250 customers don't buy and 750 do buy for $5 apiece. </p><p>TOTAL REVENUE? ((250*$0)+(750*$5))=<strong>$3,750</strong></p><p>Not a bad haul for a pool of 1000 customers.</p><p></p><p>Now, let's pretend the same 1000 customers have the option of buying two tables for $5, or one of the tables for $2.50, or no tables for $0. Here is where the numbers get speculative, but remember, I'm showing proof of <em>concept</em>, not proof of reality. So, using the same table pack, and assuming the 1000 people are all fans of TPA, there will be very few people buying nothing, so... 10%? So, what's the percentage of people buying Goin' Nuts versus not? Let's split it down the middle. GN seems to be hated by most people on these forums (with few exceptions). So let's say 45% of people only bought Flight 2000 and 45% bought both (and %10 buying neither). Time for some math again.</p><p>TOTAL REVENUE? ((100*$0)+(450*$2.50)+(450*$5))=<strong>$3,375</strong></p><p>FarSight has now lost $375.</p><p></p><p>Just to repeat (for the third time), proof of <em>concept</em>. I'm sure FarSight has done the math with real numbers and real figures. I just took what I considered to be fair percentages, but even that is up for debate. The simple fact is that selling two for $5 is better than selling one for $2.50. Speaking for myself only, had I been given the chance to buy Goin' Nuts for $2.50... I wouldn't have bought it... along with Central Park and Big Shot and a few others (I'm not a fan of the older games).</p><p></p><p>So, to summarize... FarSight, please KEEP selling two tables at the same time!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VanceFox, post: 118501, member: 3267"] FarSight is not going to sell table individually (except for the Kickstarter tables, and I completely understand that one). The reason comes down to economics. They would, most likely, lose money if they did this. Allow me to demonstrate. First off, let me say the following is proof of CONCEPT, not proof of reality. I do not have the time and energy to do market research, customer surveys, etc. to get the actual numbers to illustrate my point. I am using what I feel are fair example numbers to demonstrate the [I]concept[/I]. Second, we need to assume the following, which I feel is accurate. The price of a (non-Kickstarter) table pack is $5 for 2 tables. I believe the people arguing for individual sales are asking for $2.50 for one table. I can't imagine they would argue for $5 for 1 table as that would double the price of a full pack. The underlying premise of buying single tables is to save money not buying the stuff you don't want. Okay, let's now play with the Devil's magic... math! (That was a math joke, please don't get upset.) Let's pretend there are 1000 customers for TPA. When a new table pack comes out, there will always be a percentage of people that won't buy it because they don't like one (or both) of the tables. What percentage is that? I'm going to imagine we're talking about table pack #16 which included Flight 2000 and what may be the most maligned table in all of TPA... Goin' Nuts. Let's say because GN is so bad, 25% of the 1000 customers don't buy the pack. That means 250 customers don't buy and 750 do buy for $5 apiece. TOTAL REVENUE? ((250*$0)+(750*$5))=[B]$3,750[/B] Not a bad haul for a pool of 1000 customers. Now, let's pretend the same 1000 customers have the option of buying two tables for $5, or one of the tables for $2.50, or no tables for $0. Here is where the numbers get speculative, but remember, I'm showing proof of [I]concept[/I], not proof of reality. So, using the same table pack, and assuming the 1000 people are all fans of TPA, there will be very few people buying nothing, so... 10%? So, what's the percentage of people buying Goin' Nuts versus not? Let's split it down the middle. GN seems to be hated by most people on these forums (with few exceptions). So let's say 45% of people only bought Flight 2000 and 45% bought both (and %10 buying neither). Time for some math again. TOTAL REVENUE? ((100*$0)+(450*$2.50)+(450*$5))=[B]$3,375[/B] FarSight has now lost $375. Just to repeat (for the third time), proof of [I]concept[/I]. I'm sure FarSight has done the math with real numbers and real figures. I just took what I considered to be fair percentages, but even that is up for debate. The simple fact is that selling two for $5 is better than selling one for $2.50. Speaking for myself only, had I been given the chance to buy Goin' Nuts for $2.50... I wouldn't have bought it... along with Central Park and Big Shot and a few others (I'm not a fan of the older games). So, to summarize... FarSight, please KEEP selling two tables at the same time! [/QUOTE]
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