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<blockquote data-quote="invitro" data-source="post: 236960" data-attributes="member: 446"><p>Some more early Sega quick takes... Maverick was very simple but I really enjoyed it and always played a couple of games when I saw it. Batman Forever had severe mechanical problems, I played several of them but I never found a working one. I liked Apollo 13 pretty well except for the silly 13-ball; I think it had a new operator's menu that was very slick and functional and beat WMS.</p><p></p><p>A lot of people like Goldeneye, and I suppose it's OK, but I think Sega had started making games very similar to each other by then, and thus boring. So I really don't like Twister, Space Jam, and especially Lost World JP, which I think is the most boring table of the 1990's. </p><p></p><p>I enjoyed Star Wars Trilogy but didn't play it much. I never played X-Files, but I think it looks great after looking at pics & vids recently, and really hope Farsight pursues it after the current TV show ends (if it's still on).</p><p></p><p>I only played Viper Night Drivin' a few times but enjoyed it. I remember it not being as creative as SST, but more than the pack listed above. I really liked the colored pinballs and wish more tables used them <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />.</p><p></p><p>I've never played Godzilla. I played South Park a few times but don't remember anything about it.</p><p></p><p>There are a huge pile of Data Easts I've never played, or only played a little and don't remember: Secret Service, Torpedo Alley, Time Machine, Playboy, Robocop, Monday Night Football, Back to the Future, Checkpoint, TMNT, Batman, Star Trek, and Hook. The whole run from Laser War (which I did play several times when it was brand-new) until Lethal Weapon 3... I saw a lot of them, but didn't play; I guess I was shunning them in favor of WMS and even Premier (I was really into Premier games -- Freddy, Shaq Attaq, Stargate, Big Hurt, even Strikes N' Spares -- for about a year around 1994/95, partly because several locations in my hometown got them within a week after they debuted).</p><p></p><p>I played Lethal Weapon 3 a whole lot, and it was replaced by Last Action Hero which I also played a whole lot, and they're kind of similar so my memories of them are merged <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. I learned Death Saves on these two. I thought they were both very fun, of course they're mode mania, and I was not a good player then so I don't know if the rules are any good, but I'm looking forward to LAH in TPA.</p><p></p><p>I played Star Wars a lot but wasn't good enough to know about the badness of the rules, and didn't play it when I was good, so I still don't <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. I also played a Tales From the Crypt a lot, but don't remember much about it other than it was also mode mania, and something about the playfield was subtly off-center or asymmetric. TFTC was very highly regarded at the time, as being a significant improvement over recent DE's. Of course I played JP tons, many of them as it was all over the place and continued to be so well into the 2000's, and I didn't think it was so hot in the 1990's but kinda fell in love with one around 2002, but then it disappeared. And I played WWF a bunch too, but it was too easy even for me. I did like its wide-bodiness, and its mini-playfield.</p><p></p><p>And Tommy... well Tommy was beloved, and I loved it. I think part of the reason was that I got the original/1969 album back then (1995) and was mainlining it. I think I was silly/wrong to say that Tommy blew JP away, that's too much, but it's probably the peak of the DE/Sega mode-based tables. It loses points for not actually having The Who performing or imaged anywhere in it (I think that is right?), which raises my hopes for it in TPA a little, but it still has the name The Who, and Tommy isn't yet a dead I.P., and of course The Who wrote the songs, so probably still way too pricey.</p><p></p><p>Well heck, a little Stern while I'm babbling... I played Austin Powers at a Pinburgh when it was new and really, really hated it, I don't remember why, but I'm pretty sure it was because I was angry & depressed over Stern putting WMS out of business. A HRC and a Sharkey's Shootout were new in a local arcade, and I played them several times... I know I liked HRC, but don't remember Sharkey's. I played the whiz out of Monopoly because one was next door to where I worked in 2002, and because it was a Lawlor. I remember it being OK, but awfully boring after awhile. I played a Stern Playboy at a truck stop in Virginia, I was very impressed by it and I could care less about Playboy as a theme, and hoped to play it more but that didn't happen.</p><p></p><p>From 2006-08, there was a RBIoN, Elvis, and Sopranos near me, and I played them some (I focused on a perfect Medieval Madness). I thought RBIoN was very very complex and worth figuring out (I didn't until TPA), Elvis was very interesting and a sign of Stern improving and making less-boring tables, and I really liked Sopranos, which I thought was loaded with fun shots, toys, art, and DMD stuff, and I still hope makes it into TPA or SPA some day (but after all the Sterns I haven't played).</p><p></p><p>Then there's a very wide gap, and the only post-2005 tables I've played (more than one or two times at an auction) happened in the last few months: Mustang, Avengers, Iron Man, and NASCAR. I was pleasantly surprised by these as I found them more fun than I expected (most 2006-2012 Sterns looked like crap to me from pictures). I was particularly impressed by Mustang, and by NASCAR, which happens to be the closest pinball machine to where I live, but unfortunately is fairly badly broken.</p><p></p><p>Well that was fun, some non-WMS pinball memories.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="invitro, post: 236960, member: 446"] Some more early Sega quick takes... Maverick was very simple but I really enjoyed it and always played a couple of games when I saw it. Batman Forever had severe mechanical problems, I played several of them but I never found a working one. I liked Apollo 13 pretty well except for the silly 13-ball; I think it had a new operator's menu that was very slick and functional and beat WMS. A lot of people like Goldeneye, and I suppose it's OK, but I think Sega had started making games very similar to each other by then, and thus boring. So I really don't like Twister, Space Jam, and especially Lost World JP, which I think is the most boring table of the 1990's. I enjoyed Star Wars Trilogy but didn't play it much. I never played X-Files, but I think it looks great after looking at pics & vids recently, and really hope Farsight pursues it after the current TV show ends (if it's still on). I only played Viper Night Drivin' a few times but enjoyed it. I remember it not being as creative as SST, but more than the pack listed above. I really liked the colored pinballs and wish more tables used them :). I've never played Godzilla. I played South Park a few times but don't remember anything about it. There are a huge pile of Data Easts I've never played, or only played a little and don't remember: Secret Service, Torpedo Alley, Time Machine, Playboy, Robocop, Monday Night Football, Back to the Future, Checkpoint, TMNT, Batman, Star Trek, and Hook. The whole run from Laser War (which I did play several times when it was brand-new) until Lethal Weapon 3... I saw a lot of them, but didn't play; I guess I was shunning them in favor of WMS and even Premier (I was really into Premier games -- Freddy, Shaq Attaq, Stargate, Big Hurt, even Strikes N' Spares -- for about a year around 1994/95, partly because several locations in my hometown got them within a week after they debuted). I played Lethal Weapon 3 a whole lot, and it was replaced by Last Action Hero which I also played a whole lot, and they're kind of similar so my memories of them are merged :). I learned Death Saves on these two. I thought they were both very fun, of course they're mode mania, and I was not a good player then so I don't know if the rules are any good, but I'm looking forward to LAH in TPA. I played Star Wars a lot but wasn't good enough to know about the badness of the rules, and didn't play it when I was good, so I still don't :). I also played a Tales From the Crypt a lot, but don't remember much about it other than it was also mode mania, and something about the playfield was subtly off-center or asymmetric. TFTC was very highly regarded at the time, as being a significant improvement over recent DE's. Of course I played JP tons, many of them as it was all over the place and continued to be so well into the 2000's, and I didn't think it was so hot in the 1990's but kinda fell in love with one around 2002, but then it disappeared. And I played WWF a bunch too, but it was too easy even for me. I did like its wide-bodiness, and its mini-playfield. And Tommy... well Tommy was beloved, and I loved it. I think part of the reason was that I got the original/1969 album back then (1995) and was mainlining it. I think I was silly/wrong to say that Tommy blew JP away, that's too much, but it's probably the peak of the DE/Sega mode-based tables. It loses points for not actually having The Who performing or imaged anywhere in it (I think that is right?), which raises my hopes for it in TPA a little, but it still has the name The Who, and Tommy isn't yet a dead I.P., and of course The Who wrote the songs, so probably still way too pricey. Well heck, a little Stern while I'm babbling... I played Austin Powers at a Pinburgh when it was new and really, really hated it, I don't remember why, but I'm pretty sure it was because I was angry & depressed over Stern putting WMS out of business. A HRC and a Sharkey's Shootout were new in a local arcade, and I played them several times... I know I liked HRC, but don't remember Sharkey's. I played the whiz out of Monopoly because one was next door to where I worked in 2002, and because it was a Lawlor. I remember it being OK, but awfully boring after awhile. I played a Stern Playboy at a truck stop in Virginia, I was very impressed by it and I could care less about Playboy as a theme, and hoped to play it more but that didn't happen. From 2006-08, there was a RBIoN, Elvis, and Sopranos near me, and I played them some (I focused on a perfect Medieval Madness). I thought RBIoN was very very complex and worth figuring out (I didn't until TPA), Elvis was very interesting and a sign of Stern improving and making less-boring tables, and I really liked Sopranos, which I thought was loaded with fun shots, toys, art, and DMD stuff, and I still hope makes it into TPA or SPA some day (but after all the Sterns I haven't played). Then there's a very wide gap, and the only post-2005 tables I've played (more than one or two times at an auction) happened in the last few months: Mustang, Avengers, Iron Man, and NASCAR. I was pleasantly surprised by these as I found them more fun than I expected (most 2006-2012 Sterns looked like crap to me from pictures). I was particularly impressed by Mustang, and by NASCAR, which happens to be the closest pinball machine to where I live, but unfortunately is fairly badly broken. Well that was fun, some non-WMS pinball memories. [/QUOTE]
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