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ZREXMike , you know your bikes , all I know is the make of bikes , that`s about all . come on Citizen , out there with that red dust that`s the type of bike you have to ride .I had to go shopping straight after the match this morning , boy that was a tough bloody game . should be a great final . ZREXMike and Citizen I got a beauty for you on music forum , I`m going there now .