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<blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 145335" data-attributes="member: 134"><p>The Stern machines I'm talking about that are 'cheap looking' are from their rebirth, not what they are currently putting out. From a distance, they look fine. Look closely, and you'll see a lack of polish in how they put the things together. Wire runs that are fully exposed, cheap looking plastic parts that should have been metal, little things. Look at a beat up Williams or Bally table and you still won't see those things. They shoehorned that LED display into RBION, Monopoly, HRC, and RCT for no reason other than cost savings over 3 tables. Look at the fonts on the numbers of Austin Powers, they're just so generic. </p><p></p><p>Stern was doing what it had to do in order to survive, but man was it a turn off to me. I don't believe it was until LotR that they started turning things around, but even after that there were missteps. Take a look at Sopranos and Playboy and tell me they look like high quality builds. Again, not talking how they play, just how they look. </p><p></p><p>I posted over <a href="http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/4661-Pinball-League-in-SoCal?p=144482#post144482" target="_blank">here</a> my thoughts during my most recent league night visit. All the tables were fully restored, so it was real easy to compare how things looked. The Gottlieb, Sega, Zaccaria tables all paled in comparison to the Bally and Williams stuff on hand. I was actually surprised at the 2 Data East machines on hand, G'n'R and Star Wars, because they looked top notch too. The Stern machines were all of the LE variety, so they too were fantastic looking. This is all purely the visceral feeling I get walking up to these machines. Williams rarely made an error in comparison. I think the reason Popeye and Bugs Bunny get hated on are specifically because of how they look. </p><p></p><p>Simply put, it's hard to get that 'cheap' feeling solely from photos. Get put into a room with a large selection of machines though, it becomes quite obvious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shutyertrap, post: 145335, member: 134"] The Stern machines I'm talking about that are 'cheap looking' are from their rebirth, not what they are currently putting out. From a distance, they look fine. Look closely, and you'll see a lack of polish in how they put the things together. Wire runs that are fully exposed, cheap looking plastic parts that should have been metal, little things. Look at a beat up Williams or Bally table and you still won't see those things. They shoehorned that LED display into RBION, Monopoly, HRC, and RCT for no reason other than cost savings over 3 tables. Look at the fonts on the numbers of Austin Powers, they're just so generic. Stern was doing what it had to do in order to survive, but man was it a turn off to me. I don't believe it was until LotR that they started turning things around, but even after that there were missteps. Take a look at Sopranos and Playboy and tell me they look like high quality builds. Again, not talking how they play, just how they look. I posted over [URL="http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/4661-Pinball-League-in-SoCal?p=144482#post144482"]here[/URL] my thoughts during my most recent league night visit. All the tables were fully restored, so it was real easy to compare how things looked. The Gottlieb, Sega, Zaccaria tables all paled in comparison to the Bally and Williams stuff on hand. I was actually surprised at the 2 Data East machines on hand, G'n'R and Star Wars, because they looked top notch too. The Stern machines were all of the LE variety, so they too were fantastic looking. This is all purely the visceral feeling I get walking up to these machines. Williams rarely made an error in comparison. I think the reason Popeye and Bugs Bunny get hated on are specifically because of how they look. Simply put, it's hard to get that 'cheap' feeling solely from photos. Get put into a room with a large selection of machines though, it becomes quite obvious. [/QUOTE]
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