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<blockquote data-quote="Zombie Aladdin" data-source="post: 145476" data-attributes="member: 4242"><p>Hmm, interesting. The only SEGA table I've seen on location that I can visit with any regularity is a <em>Mary Shelley's Frankenstein</em> that's well-maintained. By comparison, there's always something wrong with the <em>Black Knight</em> a few feet down from it.</p><p></p><p>I also just had a thought: Were the Gottlieb/Premier tables sold at a lower price than the others? That may have been its business strategy, if they are as cheap as you say. I really can't say much about quality of Gottliebs compared to Ballys and Williamses, however, as they seem to be somewhat less battered than the Ballys and Williamses from the same decade. (I assume they were played less.) All in all, this has been a thought ever since I looked at pinball discussions on the Internet, about "cheapness" and such, and it has never been obvious to me.</p><p></p><p>By the way, one thing I do know is at least one other patent Williams is sitting on: It's a feature where the game can confirm if a switch is broken, usually by it figuring it hasn't been triggered in some large amount of games, and re-designate other switches to serve its purpose. For this reason, machines from Williams, and Bally when the two had been merged, have a reputation of holding up well with time, as a broken switch was harder to notice. Data East, Gottlieb, Capcom, and SEGA, not having that patent, could not do such a thing, and so they would feel like they break down faster. Williams still has the patent, which means Stern can't do it either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zombie Aladdin, post: 145476, member: 4242"] Hmm, interesting. The only SEGA table I've seen on location that I can visit with any regularity is a [i]Mary Shelley's Frankenstein[/i] that's well-maintained. By comparison, there's always something wrong with the [i]Black Knight[/i] a few feet down from it. I also just had a thought: Were the Gottlieb/Premier tables sold at a lower price than the others? That may have been its business strategy, if they are as cheap as you say. I really can't say much about quality of Gottliebs compared to Ballys and Williamses, however, as they seem to be somewhat less battered than the Ballys and Williamses from the same decade. (I assume they were played less.) All in all, this has been a thought ever since I looked at pinball discussions on the Internet, about "cheapness" and such, and it has never been obvious to me. By the way, one thing I do know is at least one other patent Williams is sitting on: It's a feature where the game can confirm if a switch is broken, usually by it figuring it hasn't been triggered in some large amount of games, and re-designate other switches to serve its purpose. For this reason, machines from Williams, and Bally when the two had been merged, have a reputation of holding up well with time, as a broken switch was harder to notice. Data East, Gottlieb, Capcom, and SEGA, not having that patent, could not do such a thing, and so they would feel like they break down faster. Williams still has the patent, which means Stern can't do it either. [/QUOTE]
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