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Top 3 Showdown: Farsight's Official Pre-1980 Poll
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<blockquote data-quote="SuperKaladrax" data-source="post: 186432" data-attributes="member: 4168"><p>I'm not arguing that EMs would be especially popular. I would expect they would be a niche product. I'm even content, provided the data is good, with not doing them if there's good reason. What I object to here is using the poll to infer that people don't want EMs. That's bogus data, an invalid inference. To give an example, the same data shows us, in both polls, that the cumulative majority voted against Xenon. So it won both polls, but the majority "doesn't" want it. So should it be made? The data tells us that less than 50% of the customers want it. </p><p></p><p>That is, of course, an equally invalid inference. But that's pretty much what Farsight did re: EMs here. They drew a conclusion that is not necessarily supported by the data, because the data wasn't asking the question from which the inference was drawn. </p><p></p><p>My second point is about exploiting cumulative sales in the back catalog. It might be worth giving some love to the more niche audience now and then because it's not a strict line of how one table performs against another - it's also a question of how much additional support through the catalog such a table can bring. There's also the question of growing the audience - and whether or not bringing in some new grognards might be worth it. These are questions not as easily quantified, but that doesn't mean they should be dismissed out of hand or unilaterally. And certainly not on the grounds of the data represented in these two polls. </p><p></p><p>The only way to know is one of two options:</p><p></p><p>Either A: make a poll that asks if people would support (buy) one EM per season, yes or no. If that poll shows overwhelmingly no, then we have a clear answer, don't make any, and we can all shut up.</p><p></p><p>Or B: take a risk and make one of the IPDB top ten EMs. If it tanks, we have our answer. Don't make any more, we'll shut up. It wouldn't be the first time Farsight squeaked out an unpopular stinker table on its own, so it hardly represents an enormous risk. And we know it will sell some, so it won't be a complete loss. </p><p></p><p>Either of those I would accept as definitive, and immediately cease griping forthwith. And point new people who ask to the results that back up the "no". But I won't accept crap data.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SuperKaladrax, post: 186432, member: 4168"] I'm not arguing that EMs would be especially popular. I would expect they would be a niche product. I'm even content, provided the data is good, with not doing them if there's good reason. What I object to here is using the poll to infer that people don't want EMs. That's bogus data, an invalid inference. To give an example, the same data shows us, in both polls, that the cumulative majority voted against Xenon. So it won both polls, but the majority "doesn't" want it. So should it be made? The data tells us that less than 50% of the customers want it. That is, of course, an equally invalid inference. But that's pretty much what Farsight did re: EMs here. They drew a conclusion that is not necessarily supported by the data, because the data wasn't asking the question from which the inference was drawn. My second point is about exploiting cumulative sales in the back catalog. It might be worth giving some love to the more niche audience now and then because it's not a strict line of how one table performs against another - it's also a question of how much additional support through the catalog such a table can bring. There's also the question of growing the audience - and whether or not bringing in some new grognards might be worth it. These are questions not as easily quantified, but that doesn't mean they should be dismissed out of hand or unilaterally. And certainly not on the grounds of the data represented in these two polls. The only way to know is one of two options: Either A: make a poll that asks if people would support (buy) one EM per season, yes or no. If that poll shows overwhelmingly no, then we have a clear answer, don't make any, and we can all shut up. Or B: take a risk and make one of the IPDB top ten EMs. If it tanks, we have our answer. Don't make any more, we'll shut up. It wouldn't be the first time Farsight squeaked out an unpopular stinker table on its own, so it hardly represents an enormous risk. And we know it will sell some, so it won't be a complete loss. Either of those I would accept as definitive, and immediately cease griping forthwith. And point new people who ask to the results that back up the "no". But I won't accept crap data. [/QUOTE]
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