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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pezpunk" data-source="post: 221621" data-attributes="member: 951">glad to see STTNG getting some love.  couldn't agree more with PET3R -- it is very tough, but it is a game that rewards accuracy above all else.  you don't lose your ball if you make your shot.  this is something TPA gets right about the game.if we're talking strictly gameplay and strategy, that changes my top 5 significantly - i am a guy who loves lights and sound and ramps and toys, but in terms of sheer challenge, System 9 / System 11 games (and other games from that era) offer as much or more than the most complicated and feature-packed 90s Williams games that i love so much.F14 Tomcat is so fast and fun.  Taxi, too.  can't really place them behind TAF or TZ ... but then again, some of the modern Sterns are really great too.  Star Trek, Metallica, and AC/DC i think hold up very well against that group too.  it's hard for me to pick a top five, but i think any of those i just mentioned would be worthy.</blockquote>

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