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<blockquote data-quote="PET3R" data-source="post: 227940" data-attributes="member: 5266"><p><strong><u>PART 1</u></strong></p><p></p><p>Thank you for your patience, I have been very busy at work, family but specially at researching, analysing and playing lot of pinball (both TPA & IRL).</p><p></p><p>I have read through over 100 pinball rulesheets starting from beginning of 90's (DMD) all the way to present time, and I have discovered very interesting fact. </p><p>Everyone will agree that pinball is evolving and it is no more just about beating the highest score. There is much more to it– goal (wizard mode) and the experience of getting there. Great pinball is very memorable because of 3 stages -</p><p></p><p>a) journey towards the wizard mode </p><p>b) wizard mode it self </p><p>c) what comes once the wizard has been reached and beaten</p><p></p><p>Therefore it seems that most of the time the longer and more dificult the journey the deeper ruleset and experience as well as joy from beating the goal.</p><p></p><p>Let's first categorise some tables. (doing all from memory so some tables might be in wrong category as well as there are some not mentioned)</p><p></p><p><strong>pre DMD</strong> (pre 90's) tables: <em>No wizard, no journey or only mini wizard which can be reached very easily. So the rules and gameplay feels very light and does not leave a strong memorable experience.</em></p><p></p><p><u>90's pinball</u>:</p><p></p><p><strong>Modes: </strong></p><p><strong>a)</strong> Addams Family, Twilight Zone, Indiana Jones, *(Arabian Nights). Judge Dredd, Demolition Man, Lethal Weapon 3, Last action hero, Tales from the crypt, The who's tommy, Guns n RosesDirty Harry, Baywatch, Batman Forever, Apollo 13, Goldeneye, Jurrasic Park, No Fear, Cue Ball Wizard</p><p></p><p><em>you can reach the wizard very easily as you will get there even if you perform poorly during the modes. You don't even have to play them.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><strong>Modes that affect Wizard:</strong></p><p><strong>b)</strong> Start Trek NG, Johnny Mnemonic, Family Guy, Frankenstein, Road Show, Freddie nightmare,</p><p></p><p><em>better sollution to group A, but modes can still be skipped and reaching wizard is still quite easy as you do not need to perfom well.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><strong>Modes + Goals:</strong></p><p><strong>c)</strong> Theathre of Magic, The Shadow, Stargate, Big Bang Bar</p><p></p><p><em>combination of A and D but skipping the modes is still the problem.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><strong>No Modes/only goals</strong></p><p><strong>d)</strong> Attack from Mars, Medieval Madness, Cactus Canyon, White Water, Scared Stiff, Creature from the black lagoon, Cirqus Voltaire, Pinball Magic</p><p></p><p><em>reaching the wizard means you have completed everything and did not skip anything.It is not easy to achieve and therefore very satisfying once done.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><strong>Multiball only:</strong></p><p><strong>e)</strong>Dracula, Csi (stern), Twister</p><p><strong>e2)</strong> Godzilla, 24 (stern), Big Buck Hunter (stern) </p><p></p><p><em>e) no wizard mode, e2) wizard mode </em></p><p><em>No variety, too linear, if you don't reach the final jackpot you start at the bottom. </em></p><p><em>Exception: Godzilla – more on that later</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><strong>Luck based:</strong></p><p><strong>f)</strong> who dunnit, high roller, champion pub, wheel of fortune, world poker tour, jackbot, Starship Troppers, </p><p></p><p><em>features like roulets in who dunnit and high roller or random award of wizard mode in Starship Troopers takes away from competitivnes as the table is based on luck rather than skill.</em></p><p></p><p><strong>Unique/Uncategorized:</strong></p><p><strong>g)</strong> Monster Bash (South Park, Austin Powers (stern))</p><p>Rescue 911</p><p>Congo</p><p>Doctor Who</p><p></p><p><em>More on this later</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><strong>Stern (2000's)</strong></p><p><strong>a)</strong> Ripley, Lord of the Rings,</p><p><strong>b)</strong> Iron Man, Avatar, Rolling Stones, Avengers, X-Men, Tron</p><p><strong>c)</strong> Monopoly, Simpsons pinball party, Pirates of the Carribean, Elvis, Spider Man, Batman, Transformers, Metallica, AC/DC, Star Trek, Mustang, Walking Dead, Kiss, Game of Thrones, Terminator 3</p><p></p><p><em>a) perfect solution to groups A & B & C of 90's</em></p><p><em>b) perfect marriage/combination of group D of 90's and Monster Bash. Start all goals to get secondary wizard, finish them all to get main wizard mode.</em></p><p><em>c) some of the other good Stern tables where the wizard is much harder to reach compared to groups A,B,C of 90's, as you have to successfully finish the goals </em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PET3R, post: 227940, member: 5266"] [B][U]PART 1[/U][/B] Thank you for your patience, I have been very busy at work, family but specially at researching, analysing and playing lot of pinball (both TPA & IRL). I have read through over 100 pinball rulesheets starting from beginning of 90's (DMD) all the way to present time, and I have discovered very interesting fact. Everyone will agree that pinball is evolving and it is no more just about beating the highest score. There is much more to it– goal (wizard mode) and the experience of getting there. Great pinball is very memorable because of 3 stages - a) journey towards the wizard mode b) wizard mode it self c) what comes once the wizard has been reached and beaten Therefore it seems that most of the time the longer and more dificult the journey the deeper ruleset and experience as well as joy from beating the goal. Let's first categorise some tables. (doing all from memory so some tables might be in wrong category as well as there are some not mentioned) [B]pre DMD[/B] (pre 90's) tables: [I]No wizard, no journey or only mini wizard which can be reached very easily. So the rules and gameplay feels very light and does not leave a strong memorable experience.[/I] [U]90's pinball[/U]: [B]Modes: a)[/B] Addams Family, Twilight Zone, Indiana Jones, *(Arabian Nights). Judge Dredd, Demolition Man, Lethal Weapon 3, Last action hero, Tales from the crypt, The who's tommy, Guns n RosesDirty Harry, Baywatch, Batman Forever, Apollo 13, Goldeneye, Jurrasic Park, No Fear, Cue Ball Wizard [I]you can reach the wizard very easily as you will get there even if you perform poorly during the modes. You don't even have to play them. [/I] [B]Modes that affect Wizard: b)[/B] Start Trek NG, Johnny Mnemonic, Family Guy, Frankenstein, Road Show, Freddie nightmare, [I]better sollution to group A, but modes can still be skipped and reaching wizard is still quite easy as you do not need to perfom well. [/I] [B]Modes + Goals: c)[/B] Theathre of Magic, The Shadow, Stargate, Big Bang Bar [I]combination of A and D but skipping the modes is still the problem. [/I] [B]No Modes/only goals d)[/B] Attack from Mars, Medieval Madness, Cactus Canyon, White Water, Scared Stiff, Creature from the black lagoon, Cirqus Voltaire, Pinball Magic [I]reaching the wizard means you have completed everything and did not skip anything.It is not easy to achieve and therefore very satisfying once done. [/I] [B]Multiball only: e)[/B]Dracula, Csi (stern), Twister [B]e2)[/B] Godzilla, 24 (stern), Big Buck Hunter (stern) [I]e) no wizard mode, e2) wizard mode No variety, too linear, if you don't reach the final jackpot you start at the bottom. Exception: Godzilla – more on that later [/I] [B]Luck based: f)[/B] who dunnit, high roller, champion pub, wheel of fortune, world poker tour, jackbot, Starship Troppers, [I]features like roulets in who dunnit and high roller or random award of wizard mode in Starship Troopers takes away from competitivnes as the table is based on luck rather than skill.[/I] [B]Unique/Uncategorized: g)[/B] Monster Bash (South Park, Austin Powers (stern)) Rescue 911 Congo Doctor Who [I]More on this later [/I] [B]Stern (2000's) a)[/B] Ripley, Lord of the Rings, [B]b)[/B] Iron Man, Avatar, Rolling Stones, Avengers, X-Men, Tron [B]c)[/B] Monopoly, Simpsons pinball party, Pirates of the Carribean, Elvis, Spider Man, Batman, Transformers, Metallica, AC/DC, Star Trek, Mustang, Walking Dead, Kiss, Game of Thrones, Terminator 3 [I]a) perfect solution to groups A & B & C of 90's b) perfect marriage/combination of group D of 90's and Monster Bash. Start all goals to get secondary wizard, finish them all to get main wizard mode. c) some of the other good Stern tables where the wizard is much harder to reach compared to groups A,B,C of 90's, as you have to successfully finish the goals [/I] [/QUOTE]
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