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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jonesjb" data-source="post: 228029" data-attributes="member: 2290">I don't hate Stern per se, actually to me I think Stern (post 2000) falls into 3 categories:Games that get boring fast, simple shots that get repetitive:Elvis, Sopranos, Indiana Jones, High Roller CasinoGames that have a very complex rule set, which I haven't put enough time in and don't understand yet, and I'd like to get to know more before I judge (this falls on my failing, the Stern app will help out here):SpidermanTronMetallica (tried it, didn't get it, must be missing something).And great games with a complex rule set, and/or multiple wizard modes, and are very impressive (like Pet3r admires):Lord of the Rings, Simpsons, and Walking Dead (check this one out)!In terms of appeal think Williams has a few things on Stern, I'm not saying these are all logical points of comparison:-Criticism that comes along with Stern being a monopoly.-Williams has better artwork (not reliant on photoshop).-Complex rule sets, but ones that are accessible (you don't need to read up to fully understand it), this isn't a bad thing for Stern, but means that Williams could appeal out on route to the masses, whereas to really get a Stern machine by playing (and not reading), you'd need to spend a lot of time on it or own it in home. Once again, not a negative.-Strong designers and programmers - Walking Dead again. Many of which now work on Stern. This is where Williams makes 1 + 1 =3, and the table designs and rulesets all work together to be fun and more than a sum of its parts.</blockquote>

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