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<blockquote data-quote="PET3R" data-source="post: 256402" data-attributes="member: 5266"><p>Why <strong>Star Trek Vengeance</strong> deserves the top spot?</p><p></p><p>It rewards the good, accurate and fast play & there is no such a thing as:</p><p></p><p>1. this mode is big drain hazard or is not worth playing (TOM, TZ)</p><p>2. "Some of the pro players ignore the modes and just rush to the wizard mode" (TAF)</p><p>3. Bonus can be more valuable than anything else (CC,TOM)</p><p>4. It's pretty much down to 3x jackpot (WW)</p><p>5. For big points just shoot the castle or play the multiball (MM)</p><p>6. Take your time, there is no rush (MM)</p><p>7. Repetitive shots (MM,AFM,CV)</p><p>8. Wizard mode is where all the big points are BUT! it does not matter how well did you play before as it does not affect the scoring of wizard. The key to high score is to keep it going for as long as you can (MB,SS)</p><p>9. Wizard is too easy to reach (TOTAN, SS, CC)</p><p>10. Big drainer (STTNG, CC)</p><p>11. Annoying interruption by video modes (STTNG, AFM, MM, TOM)</p><p>12. Those magnets (TAF)</p><p>13. Left, right, piano (TZ<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p>14. It's all about the cannon (T2)</p><p>15. I have completed the Wizard mode, played victory laps and drained the ball. I have the last ball left. Not much to do here, feels like a restart of the game. (MM)</p><p>16. Everything went so perfect but was unable to complete that last goal which stoped me from any progress. I tried it again and again with no luck. So annoying. (AFM-SJ, MB-bride?)</p><p></p><p>Because the shot values in STV are accumulative (each following shot is of a higher value) and together with medals play a big role in wizard modes you want to get them all. </p><p>Combos double the value of the next shot and therefore a quick play and accuracy is rewarded. Multicolor flashing shots that are worth much more than other shots adds to the need for accuracy.</p><p></p><p>Thanks to 3 wizard modes the game does not leave you unsatisfied that you haven't reached one (MM in real life) but also does not feel too easy to beat.</p><p></p><p>After the final 3/3 wizard the game does not feel as if it restarted because:</p><p></p><p>A) shots are acumulative, each of the mission shots will be multiple times higher than in the first round and </p><p></p><p>B) You will have accumulated total of 24 medals by the time you reach your second (round) 1/3 wizard. </p><p>So if you have collected all Golds -</p><p>1st round 1/3 W - 6 Gold medals (35m)</p><p>2nd round 1/3 W - 24 Gold Medals (140m)</p><p></p><p>6 missions is not a big number and therefore you never feel very far from the next wizard mode. + there are rewards for 3 missions in line.</p><p></p><p>I always felt that STTNG was very close to the top spot but it has it's own issues and I feel that STV has perfected it in every way. Layout (ramps, 3 flippers) and scoring are top notch. </p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong all other mentioned tables are really great but they do have some annoyances and to me they feel like the best of 90's. Like everything else , pinbal has also evolved/moved forward and some of the stern's post 2000 (especially recent) tables are a great example (LOTR, Spidey, Metallica, Ac/dc, STV, Tron?). They are starting to have much more deep/complex rule sets that works well and have a ballanced scoring. </p><p>On top of that many of the codes are still being updated and perfected.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PET3R, post: 256402, member: 5266"] Why [B]Star Trek Vengeance[/B] deserves the top spot? It rewards the good, accurate and fast play & there is no such a thing as: 1. this mode is big drain hazard or is not worth playing (TOM, TZ) 2. "Some of the pro players ignore the modes and just rush to the wizard mode" (TAF) 3. Bonus can be more valuable than anything else (CC,TOM) 4. It's pretty much down to 3x jackpot (WW) 5. For big points just shoot the castle or play the multiball (MM) 6. Take your time, there is no rush (MM) 7. Repetitive shots (MM,AFM,CV) 8. Wizard mode is where all the big points are BUT! it does not matter how well did you play before as it does not affect the scoring of wizard. The key to high score is to keep it going for as long as you can (MB,SS) 9. Wizard is too easy to reach (TOTAN, SS, CC) 10. Big drainer (STTNG, CC) 11. Annoying interruption by video modes (STTNG, AFM, MM, TOM) 12. Those magnets (TAF) 13. Left, right, piano (TZ:) 14. It's all about the cannon (T2) 15. I have completed the Wizard mode, played victory laps and drained the ball. I have the last ball left. Not much to do here, feels like a restart of the game. (MM) 16. Everything went so perfect but was unable to complete that last goal which stoped me from any progress. I tried it again and again with no luck. So annoying. (AFM-SJ, MB-bride?) Because the shot values in STV are accumulative (each following shot is of a higher value) and together with medals play a big role in wizard modes you want to get them all. Combos double the value of the next shot and therefore a quick play and accuracy is rewarded. Multicolor flashing shots that are worth much more than other shots adds to the need for accuracy. Thanks to 3 wizard modes the game does not leave you unsatisfied that you haven't reached one (MM in real life) but also does not feel too easy to beat. After the final 3/3 wizard the game does not feel as if it restarted because: A) shots are acumulative, each of the mission shots will be multiple times higher than in the first round and B) You will have accumulated total of 24 medals by the time you reach your second (round) 1/3 wizard. So if you have collected all Golds - 1st round 1/3 W - 6 Gold medals (35m) 2nd round 1/3 W - 24 Gold Medals (140m) 6 missions is not a big number and therefore you never feel very far from the next wizard mode. + there are rewards for 3 missions in line. I always felt that STTNG was very close to the top spot but it has it's own issues and I feel that STV has perfected it in every way. Layout (ramps, 3 flippers) and scoring are top notch. Don't get me wrong all other mentioned tables are really great but they do have some annoyances and to me they feel like the best of 90's. Like everything else , pinbal has also evolved/moved forward and some of the stern's post 2000 (especially recent) tables are a great example (LOTR, Spidey, Metallica, Ac/dc, STV, Tron?). They are starting to have much more deep/complex rule sets that works well and have a ballanced scoring. On top of that many of the codes are still being updated and perfected. [/QUOTE]
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