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<blockquote data-quote="JoshuaKadmon" data-source="post: 89722" data-attributes="member: 1046"><p>While I did create a "wishlist" of 100 tables, it's still meant to be an accurate prediction of what FS may be able to do in 4+ seasons. I've researched the same sources, cross-referenced fan requests and poll results, and evaluated factors like cost and availability. So far, Goin' Nuts is the only release that I didn't expect, simply because none of us could have predicted that FS could get their hands on one. I really want forum members to be able to look at this list objectively and look forward to the tables that could realistically end up in TPA. The SAM Sterns are not impossible, but several factors make them less likely. Like I said, I would love to see TRON and PotC, and I'm sure there are others who would want Family Guy, Spider-Man, or AC/DC. Hell, even Bobby expressed his desire to pursue PotC and AC/DC, but he also said they may be too outrageously expensive to consider.</p><p></p><p>The problem I see with Stern's post-2005 "cash-in" lineup is that they're ALL big-name licenses, with technology that has proven difficult to emulate. And while Williams and Bally have certainly had their fair share of cash-in licenses, they were released alongside originally-themed machines that became just as valuable in the long run. In my opinion, the newer Sterns have not been around long enough to fully determine how well they stack up to classics in the long run. Instead, we get excited about them because they're all we've got, and we're inclined to say, "Yeah, this is pretty freakin' sweat!" when we've got no real competition to compare them with. Avatar is a great example, as I absolutely love the film but cannot make myself like the pinball table no matter how many times I play it.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, FS has stated that they intend to release as many of the IPDB Top 40 as possible, and that DOES include a few SAM Sterns. It's quite possible that FS will find a way to make those work, whether it involves hefty Kickstarters or just smart dealings with Stern and various license holders, but we can't count on that. Or at least, I haven't counted on it for the purpose of this list. I would rather those be happy surprises instead of building additional anticipation for tables that may not be possible.</p><p></p><p>But all in all, I agree with your viewpoint. I just can't justify putting those tables in the list right now.</p><p></p><p>Out of curiosity, Sumez, which tables would you want included anyway? So far, I haven't heard you reference specific SAM Sterns that you would want.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JoshuaKadmon, post: 89722, member: 1046"] While I did create a "wishlist" of 100 tables, it's still meant to be an accurate prediction of what FS may be able to do in 4+ seasons. I've researched the same sources, cross-referenced fan requests and poll results, and evaluated factors like cost and availability. So far, Goin' Nuts is the only release that I didn't expect, simply because none of us could have predicted that FS could get their hands on one. I really want forum members to be able to look at this list objectively and look forward to the tables that could realistically end up in TPA. The SAM Sterns are not impossible, but several factors make them less likely. Like I said, I would love to see TRON and PotC, and I'm sure there are others who would want Family Guy, Spider-Man, or AC/DC. Hell, even Bobby expressed his desire to pursue PotC and AC/DC, but he also said they may be too outrageously expensive to consider. The problem I see with Stern's post-2005 "cash-in" lineup is that they're ALL big-name licenses, with technology that has proven difficult to emulate. And while Williams and Bally have certainly had their fair share of cash-in licenses, they were released alongside originally-themed machines that became just as valuable in the long run. In my opinion, the newer Sterns have not been around long enough to fully determine how well they stack up to classics in the long run. Instead, we get excited about them because they're all we've got, and we're inclined to say, "Yeah, this is pretty freakin' sweat!" when we've got no real competition to compare them with. Avatar is a great example, as I absolutely love the film but cannot make myself like the pinball table no matter how many times I play it. On the other hand, FS has stated that they intend to release as many of the IPDB Top 40 as possible, and that DOES include a few SAM Sterns. It's quite possible that FS will find a way to make those work, whether it involves hefty Kickstarters or just smart dealings with Stern and various license holders, but we can't count on that. Or at least, I haven't counted on it for the purpose of this list. I would rather those be happy surprises instead of building additional anticipation for tables that may not be possible. But all in all, I agree with your viewpoint. I just can't justify putting those tables in the list right now. Out of curiosity, Sumez, which tables would you want included anyway? So far, I haven't heard you reference specific SAM Sterns that you would want. [/QUOTE]
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