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<blockquote data-quote="Ozzpot" data-source="post: 9984" data-attributes="member: 449"><p>Like Ark says, if it's a slim (and presumably if you bought new, not second-hand, it definitely is), this point is moot. The slims have no overheating issues, so there are no circulation or solder issues to speak of. Anyone still talking about melting solder in 360s being an issue is basing their opinions on sorely outdated information.</p><p></p><p>I mean, the thing still gets hot and needs room to breathe of course, but it's not so delicate that it's orientation is going to make much difference at all. Besides, 99% of the slim's cooling comes from one giant fan on it's side/top whatever. That's going to be clear no matter how you position it (unless you lie it down and put things on top of it of course, which would be stupid).</p><p></p><p>I have killed 3 xboxes with the ol' red ring in the past, all of them pre-slim. I bought a slim on day of release and relegated my current machine at the time (an Elite) to being a "spare" incase my slim were ever to break. But it never has. They say that when they get too hot, they turn off rather than get damaged. But I've never even seen that. And I've thrashed this thing. So I can say empirically that heat is not an issue.</p><p></p><p>So, what about the issue of being knocked? Well, all of my Xboxes have at some point or another been upright or laid down. But they have always been placed in a small, open alcove (which was at some point in history a fireplace) in my room. The alcove houses the 360 and the Kinect sensor (each with their own shelf) and little else. Because they are tucked into their little alcove, they cannot get knocked, kicked, or tripped over, so for me, the orientation is again no real issue. In any case a 360 is quite a heavy thing, and pretty stable when standing.</p><p></p><p>To be honest, I'm not sure knock scratching it's an issue anyway. People have been obsessing about this ever since the PS2 debacle, when vertically orientated PS2s (especially European ones I think), would be very sensitive to circle-scratching discs when knocked even slightly. It was a bit of a scandal actually, and for a long time Sony would replace any discs that had been damaged in this way. Is this really a problem for the 360 10 years on? I'm not so sure.</p><p></p><p>I sold games consoles for many years, through the PS2/Xbox era certainly, and I can tell you that by far the commonest way of "knocking" a PS2 and circle-scratching your disc used to be someone tripping over your trailing controller lead and yanking the console. Since you are probably using a wireless controller on your 360, that's a big liability that you needn't worry about.</p><p></p><p>To summarise, overheating is not a problem any more, so certainly do not worry about melting solder. That's ridiculous. Either way you stand it, the one giant fan it has will likely be clear. Make sure it is, and the orientation will matter not a jot. And if it is going to be out of the way of being knocked, away from toddlers and cats and their clumsy ways etc, then that is not an issue either. So ultimately it just comes down to preference.</p><p></p><p>I hope that helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ozzpot, post: 9984, member: 449"] Like Ark says, if it's a slim (and presumably if you bought new, not second-hand, it definitely is), this point is moot. The slims have no overheating issues, so there are no circulation or solder issues to speak of. Anyone still talking about melting solder in 360s being an issue is basing their opinions on sorely outdated information. I mean, the thing still gets hot and needs room to breathe of course, but it's not so delicate that it's orientation is going to make much difference at all. Besides, 99% of the slim's cooling comes from one giant fan on it's side/top whatever. That's going to be clear no matter how you position it (unless you lie it down and put things on top of it of course, which would be stupid). I have killed 3 xboxes with the ol' red ring in the past, all of them pre-slim. I bought a slim on day of release and relegated my current machine at the time (an Elite) to being a "spare" incase my slim were ever to break. But it never has. They say that when they get too hot, they turn off rather than get damaged. But I've never even seen that. And I've thrashed this thing. So I can say empirically that heat is not an issue. So, what about the issue of being knocked? Well, all of my Xboxes have at some point or another been upright or laid down. But they have always been placed in a small, open alcove (which was at some point in history a fireplace) in my room. The alcove houses the 360 and the Kinect sensor (each with their own shelf) and little else. Because they are tucked into their little alcove, they cannot get knocked, kicked, or tripped over, so for me, the orientation is again no real issue. In any case a 360 is quite a heavy thing, and pretty stable when standing. To be honest, I'm not sure knock scratching it's an issue anyway. People have been obsessing about this ever since the PS2 debacle, when vertically orientated PS2s (especially European ones I think), would be very sensitive to circle-scratching discs when knocked even slightly. It was a bit of a scandal actually, and for a long time Sony would replace any discs that had been damaged in this way. Is this really a problem for the 360 10 years on? I'm not so sure. I sold games consoles for many years, through the PS2/Xbox era certainly, and I can tell you that by far the commonest way of "knocking" a PS2 and circle-scratching your disc used to be someone tripping over your trailing controller lead and yanking the console. Since you are probably using a wireless controller on your 360, that's a big liability that you needn't worry about. To summarise, overheating is not a problem any more, so certainly do not worry about melting solder. That's ridiculous. Either way you stand it, the one giant fan it has will likely be clear. Make sure it is, and the orientation will matter not a jot. And if it is going to be out of the way of being knocked, away from toddlers and cats and their clumsy ways etc, then that is not an issue either. So ultimately it just comes down to preference. I hope that helps. [/QUOTE]
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