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<blockquote data-quote="soundwave106" data-source="post: 140825" data-attributes="member: 3746"><p>Hmm, my wording was poor here. </p><p></p><p>What I meant was that the "times have changed" in that pinball has, by and large, disappeared from many arcades. If there was pinball in arcades, sure, Stern would dominate (and it's interesting to see TSPP lead in LA). But there isn't a lot of pinball in arcades anymore, and I get the impression (wrong or right) that a large portion of Stern sales are to private collectors.</p><p></p><p>It would be interesting to see how other areas are, but this is my experience based on my town. I live in the St. Petersburg FL area. </p><p></p><p>Around here, in the early 1990s, a lot of places -- bowling alleys, bars and music venues, arcades, etc. -- had a pinball game. One of the ones you saw in a lot of places was, indeed, The Adams Family. (I remember seeing a lot of others that seemed to be everywhere, such as World Cup Soccer, Road Show, Jurassic Park...)</p><p></p><p>Starting in the late 1990s, they slowly started disappeared, being replaced by other video games (hunting games, golf games, etc.). A lot of the older style arcades as a whole have disappeared too, with the Gameworks / Dave and Busters style dominating.</p><p></p><p>If I wanted to play real playball, I know one place instantly that would have them: an old-school arcade called Treasure Island Fun Center that I know has pins, TSPP included. They've had pins since I've known them. Elsewise? I would have to use the Pinside map to find the *10* places in this county that still have a pinball. (There was a *lot* more than 10 locations to play pinball in this county in the 1990s, I could walk into a random bowling alley and probably find one back then. I can't do that now.)</p><p></p><p>This is the breakdown in St. Petersburg. There is a lot of Stern but not a lot of duplicates:</p><p></p><p>Monopoly (x2)</p><p>Avengers</p><p>Lord of the Rings</p><p>Cyclone</p><p>South Park</p><p>Attack from Mars</p><p>Elvira and the Party Monsters</p><p>Funhouse</p><p>Simpsons Pinball Party</p><p>Family Guy</p><p>World Poker Tour</p><p>Addams Family</p><p>Class of 1812</p><p>Terminator 3</p><p>Fishtails</p><p>Elvis</p><p></p><p>It's even sadder across the bay in Tampa. There are *4* places to play pinball, most in one bowling alley. The breakdown:</p><p></p><p>Time Warp</p><p>Simpsons Pinball Party</p><p>Wheel of Fortune</p><p>Lord of the Rings</p><p>Pirates of the Caribbean</p><p>Sharkey's Shootout</p><p>Sopranos</p><p>World Poker Tour</p><p></p><p>(I was at Cigar City Brewery today where the Time Warp is. Great brewery, but the pin itself is broken and out of order. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" />)</p><p></p><p>So the point was more that TAF has had more exposure than TSPP, and that says nothing about the value of the pins but more the state of the industry. I will say that while I think TAF *would* sell better, if TAF is such a prohibitively expensive license, TSPP is not a bad choice as The Simpsons are well recognized as a franchise. I wonder if it would pass a Kickstarter (T2 barely did after all) but maybe it wouldn't even need one, or the Kickstarter would be cheap enough that it would be worthwhile.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="soundwave106, post: 140825, member: 3746"] Hmm, my wording was poor here. What I meant was that the "times have changed" in that pinball has, by and large, disappeared from many arcades. If there was pinball in arcades, sure, Stern would dominate (and it's interesting to see TSPP lead in LA). But there isn't a lot of pinball in arcades anymore, and I get the impression (wrong or right) that a large portion of Stern sales are to private collectors. It would be interesting to see how other areas are, but this is my experience based on my town. I live in the St. Petersburg FL area. Around here, in the early 1990s, a lot of places -- bowling alleys, bars and music venues, arcades, etc. -- had a pinball game. One of the ones you saw in a lot of places was, indeed, The Adams Family. (I remember seeing a lot of others that seemed to be everywhere, such as World Cup Soccer, Road Show, Jurassic Park...) Starting in the late 1990s, they slowly started disappeared, being replaced by other video games (hunting games, golf games, etc.). A lot of the older style arcades as a whole have disappeared too, with the Gameworks / Dave and Busters style dominating. If I wanted to play real playball, I know one place instantly that would have them: an old-school arcade called Treasure Island Fun Center that I know has pins, TSPP included. They've had pins since I've known them. Elsewise? I would have to use the Pinside map to find the *10* places in this county that still have a pinball. (There was a *lot* more than 10 locations to play pinball in this county in the 1990s, I could walk into a random bowling alley and probably find one back then. I can't do that now.) This is the breakdown in St. Petersburg. There is a lot of Stern but not a lot of duplicates: Monopoly (x2) Avengers Lord of the Rings Cyclone South Park Attack from Mars Elvira and the Party Monsters Funhouse Simpsons Pinball Party Family Guy World Poker Tour Addams Family Class of 1812 Terminator 3 Fishtails Elvis It's even sadder across the bay in Tampa. There are *4* places to play pinball, most in one bowling alley. The breakdown: Time Warp Simpsons Pinball Party Wheel of Fortune Lord of the Rings Pirates of the Caribbean Sharkey's Shootout Sopranos World Poker Tour (I was at Cigar City Brewery today where the Time Warp is. Great brewery, but the pin itself is broken and out of order. :p) So the point was more that TAF has had more exposure than TSPP, and that says nothing about the value of the pins but more the state of the industry. I will say that while I think TAF *would* sell better, if TAF is such a prohibitively expensive license, TSPP is not a bad choice as The Simpsons are well recognized as a franchise. I wonder if it would pass a Kickstarter (T2 barely did after all) but maybe it wouldn't even need one, or the Kickstarter would be cheap enough that it would be worthwhile. [/QUOTE]
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