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<blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 292488" data-attributes="member: 134"><p>Zen is just getting started. In that first season of tables, FarSight only released 2 licensed tables, Twilight Zone and Star Trek, and it happened at the tail end of a year's worth of releases. So Zen is right on track there. On top of that, FarSight had to crowd source funding which Zen is vehemently against. You are questioning the first year of releases and comparing it to 7 years worth from FarSight. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You doubt Zen's ability to license? Who couldn't FarSight get to even take a phone call, and who is Zen working hand in hand with? Oh yeah, Marvel, and LucasFilm. They not only secured licensing with Universal, they've created 6 original tables for them. They've licensed with Fox (who is now Disney), Bethesda, Valve, and more. I think their track record speaks volumes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You have to remember, taking on the Williams license was a big risk to Zen, considering they didn't know how well it would be received by both the TPA audience who already owned the tables, and the Zen audience that loves their fantasy pinball. They purposely started out with DMD era because 1) that was what was most popular with the TPA crowd and 2) was most similar in nature to what the Zen crowd had already been playing. Alphanumerics are on the way, trust me. Zen is also having to contend with those that want "something new" while not ignoring the popular stuff people want better versions of. We did a whole piece on just that in our BlahCade podcast from 2 or 3 episodes ago.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, give it some time. They put out 18 DMD tables in one year. They are not stopping at that for table count. It's like complaining that The Witcher has barely touched on any of the stories from the books while Game of Thrones covered all theirs and went beyond. When Zen has put out 7 years worth of content, feel free to make all the comparisons you want.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How many Williams tables did FarSight put out in VR? Zero? So we're on even ground with that. Zen does have VR tables available with some originals. Will they make any more? Good question. Is the VR user base that plays pinball large enough to justify the costs?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They didn't come in looking to be the 'savior', but they've certainly improved on each and every table in spades. I don't understand how you can say the 18 tables they've recreated are easy or uncomplicated. I mean in what way? Licensing? Rules? Toys? Such a subjective opinion to throw out there. Of course they want to release more tables, and now that the Zen crowd has grown to like 'real world tables', selling alphanumerics will actually be easier. They've already convinced the TPA crowd, so it's win win. On top of that, they are adamant about securing 3rd party IP licenses and releasing those tables too. Zen knows a thing or two about marketing which is how they've managed to build their studio to have 40-50 people who just work on pinball, and about that same number working on all their other titles non pinball related. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If they get the Stern license, they will probably revamp the engine once more and it'll release as FX4. You gotta believe that's at least 2 years down the line, so plenty of time to prove themselves capable with Williams machines that have licensing. They also know there is no point in getting Stern without also being able to obtain licensing, something I think FarSight wildly miscalculated on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shutyertrap, post: 292488, member: 134"] Zen is just getting started. In that first season of tables, FarSight only released 2 licensed tables, Twilight Zone and Star Trek, and it happened at the tail end of a year's worth of releases. So Zen is right on track there. On top of that, FarSight had to crowd source funding which Zen is vehemently against. You are questioning the first year of releases and comparing it to 7 years worth from FarSight. You doubt Zen's ability to license? Who couldn't FarSight get to even take a phone call, and who is Zen working hand in hand with? Oh yeah, Marvel, and LucasFilm. They not only secured licensing with Universal, they've created 6 original tables for them. They've licensed with Fox (who is now Disney), Bethesda, Valve, and more. I think their track record speaks volumes. You have to remember, taking on the Williams license was a big risk to Zen, considering they didn't know how well it would be received by both the TPA audience who already owned the tables, and the Zen audience that loves their fantasy pinball. They purposely started out with DMD era because 1) that was what was most popular with the TPA crowd and 2) was most similar in nature to what the Zen crowd had already been playing. Alphanumerics are on the way, trust me. Zen is also having to contend with those that want "something new" while not ignoring the popular stuff people want better versions of. We did a whole piece on just that in our BlahCade podcast from 2 or 3 episodes ago. Again, give it some time. They put out 18 DMD tables in one year. They are not stopping at that for table count. It's like complaining that The Witcher has barely touched on any of the stories from the books while Game of Thrones covered all theirs and went beyond. When Zen has put out 7 years worth of content, feel free to make all the comparisons you want. How many Williams tables did FarSight put out in VR? Zero? So we're on even ground with that. Zen does have VR tables available with some originals. Will they make any more? Good question. Is the VR user base that plays pinball large enough to justify the costs? They didn't come in looking to be the 'savior', but they've certainly improved on each and every table in spades. I don't understand how you can say the 18 tables they've recreated are easy or uncomplicated. I mean in what way? Licensing? Rules? Toys? Such a subjective opinion to throw out there. Of course they want to release more tables, and now that the Zen crowd has grown to like 'real world tables', selling alphanumerics will actually be easier. They've already convinced the TPA crowd, so it's win win. On top of that, they are adamant about securing 3rd party IP licenses and releasing those tables too. Zen knows a thing or two about marketing which is how they've managed to build their studio to have 40-50 people who just work on pinball, and about that same number working on all their other titles non pinball related. If they get the Stern license, they will probably revamp the engine once more and it'll release as FX4. You gotta believe that's at least 2 years down the line, so plenty of time to prove themselves capable with Williams machines that have licensing. They also know there is no point in getting Stern without also being able to obtain licensing, something I think FarSight wildly miscalculated on. [/QUOTE]
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