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[QUOTE="Snorzel, post: 242282, member: 4407"] [IMG]http://mirror2.ipdb.org/files/483/Gottlieb_1971_Challenger_Instruction_and_Service_Manual_Ordering_Form_front_and_back.pdf[/IMG] "There is no substitute for quality" Gottlieb EMs all the way, they went wrong when they abandoned this slogan [/QUOTE]

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