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Will High Resolution textures be include for PC Season 1 and 2 games in DirectX11 ?
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<blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 210950" data-attributes="member: 134"><p>I was all set 3 years ago to do just that. My TV is a Pioneer Elite 53" HD RPTV. I paid $5500 for it when it was brand new, and you'd better believe it smoked the pants off of any other TV out there. As LCD and Plasma TVs gained popularity, I still favored the picture quality of mine, especially since I never saw any of the pixel artifacts that were so common with the flat screens. CRT technology gives a smooth picture no matter what the content resolution, as opposed to an LCD that only looks best when something is in the same native resolution as the monitor.</p><p></p><p>I got serious about getting another pro calibration (I paid $400 for one soon after purchase) when I started having issues playing games and watching sports. TV broadcasters used to use a fairly generous 'safe zone' for HD content, meaning nothing was ever pushed to the edges of the picture for fear of it being cut off and not viewable. When my TV was made, 2001, there were no broadcast standards for HD. As such, the overscan on my TV (how much picture is lost to the edges) is significantly more than what is accepted today. Frequently I lose part of the score ribbon on sports, and the news crawl often is unreadable. </p><p></p><p>With games I was running into a different issue. My TV only does 1080i or 480p. So if a game was 720p, like most PS3 games, it would downscale to 480. Then there were the games that had their HUD in the corners and I couldn't read certain info. Even TPA is not immune from this, as with DMD tables, I lose the top 3rd of the DMD. Zen is even worse, as for some reason it not only downscaled, but letterboxed the game too.</p><p></p><p>So 3 or 4 years ago I was really fed up, not sure if I should pay for calibration as well as have the overscan fixed (which involved moving the 3 projectors and doing a full geometry alignment) or saving for a new TV. There is only one guy in California who even touches these TVs anymore, and he lives in the Bay Area. I'd have to fly him down, and the full deal was gonna cost around $1300. At that time, to get an LCD of the size and quality I expected, was gonna cost around $2500. Then he presented me with this option...if I came up from SoCal to his place, he'd sell me his 60" Pioneer that was fully done for the same price. Only issue with that is, driving it back home over 500 miles would mean it needing another calibration as soon as I got it home! Not to mention the cost of transporting it.</p><p></p><p>The final decision came down to this: these TVs don't have HDMI, and increasingly I saw that as being an issue.</p><p></p><p>I'm ever so thankful I didn't waste my money. The problem with RPTVs, one no one ever mentioned, is that they need a good calibration every year. So unless you are a hobbiest who is capable of doing it yourself, it gets costly real fast. I tried doing it, taking off the screen and cleaning the mirror and lenses, but I didn't own the grey scale reader that is necessary for getting the best color and black out of your TV. On top of that, the gamma of the guns drifts over time, and I had no clue how to adjust that.</p><p></p><p>Also in that time, obviously TV prices have plummeted. I have my heart set on a 60" minimum screen with passive 3D, but have never had the funds to just buy one. As time has gone on, those have become rarer and rarer to the point that now I'll have to go 4K in order to get that. And so I suffer with my TV. Some may ask why I don't just buy a cheap replacement until I can afford the one I want. The frustrating answer is I don't like settling for less. Not when it comes to my TV. Plus I can already hear the wife saying, "didn't you just buy a new TV?" when I could afford to get the better one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shutyertrap, post: 210950, member: 134"] I was all set 3 years ago to do just that. My TV is a Pioneer Elite 53" HD RPTV. I paid $5500 for it when it was brand new, and you'd better believe it smoked the pants off of any other TV out there. As LCD and Plasma TVs gained popularity, I still favored the picture quality of mine, especially since I never saw any of the pixel artifacts that were so common with the flat screens. CRT technology gives a smooth picture no matter what the content resolution, as opposed to an LCD that only looks best when something is in the same native resolution as the monitor. I got serious about getting another pro calibration (I paid $400 for one soon after purchase) when I started having issues playing games and watching sports. TV broadcasters used to use a fairly generous 'safe zone' for HD content, meaning nothing was ever pushed to the edges of the picture for fear of it being cut off and not viewable. When my TV was made, 2001, there were no broadcast standards for HD. As such, the overscan on my TV (how much picture is lost to the edges) is significantly more than what is accepted today. Frequently I lose part of the score ribbon on sports, and the news crawl often is unreadable. With games I was running into a different issue. My TV only does 1080i or 480p. So if a game was 720p, like most PS3 games, it would downscale to 480. Then there were the games that had their HUD in the corners and I couldn't read certain info. Even TPA is not immune from this, as with DMD tables, I lose the top 3rd of the DMD. Zen is even worse, as for some reason it not only downscaled, but letterboxed the game too. So 3 or 4 years ago I was really fed up, not sure if I should pay for calibration as well as have the overscan fixed (which involved moving the 3 projectors and doing a full geometry alignment) or saving for a new TV. There is only one guy in California who even touches these TVs anymore, and he lives in the Bay Area. I'd have to fly him down, and the full deal was gonna cost around $1300. At that time, to get an LCD of the size and quality I expected, was gonna cost around $2500. Then he presented me with this option...if I came up from SoCal to his place, he'd sell me his 60" Pioneer that was fully done for the same price. Only issue with that is, driving it back home over 500 miles would mean it needing another calibration as soon as I got it home! Not to mention the cost of transporting it. The final decision came down to this: these TVs don't have HDMI, and increasingly I saw that as being an issue. I'm ever so thankful I didn't waste my money. The problem with RPTVs, one no one ever mentioned, is that they need a good calibration every year. So unless you are a hobbiest who is capable of doing it yourself, it gets costly real fast. I tried doing it, taking off the screen and cleaning the mirror and lenses, but I didn't own the grey scale reader that is necessary for getting the best color and black out of your TV. On top of that, the gamma of the guns drifts over time, and I had no clue how to adjust that. Also in that time, obviously TV prices have plummeted. I have my heart set on a 60" minimum screen with passive 3D, but have never had the funds to just buy one. As time has gone on, those have become rarer and rarer to the point that now I'll have to go 4K in order to get that. And so I suffer with my TV. Some may ask why I don't just buy a cheap replacement until I can afford the one I want. The frustrating answer is I don't like settling for less. Not when it comes to my TV. Plus I can already hear the wife saying, "didn't you just buy a new TV?" when I could afford to get the better one. [/QUOTE]
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