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<blockquote data-quote="pinfan7" data-source="post: 294541" data-attributes="member: 7683"><p>"Almost" means 99% problem-free regarding the core gameplay experience with 1% various quirks of minor importance, if it is done natively it runs flawless. Linux is a perfectly viable gaming platform nowadays with Steam (Valve having done a tremendous work in the last years with Proton (which is Steam Play) and not only) and Lutris (with which you can play Blizzard games flawless), and lots of devs supporting it as it is proven by the number of Steam games supported (>11.000) and educational videos sprawling around in youtube praising Linux gaming <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T_-HMkgxt0&pbjreload=101" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T_-HMkgxt0&pbjreload=101</a>. , and with Linux distros supporting gaming out of the box in mind, with 1-click-install including Steam, codecs and device drivers done in a couple of minutes (vs. "half an hour" with W10), like Pop! OS, Manjaro, Mint et al. Fun fact is that older DirectX games run better on Linux than on Windows 10, which is... an accomplishment by M$ to say the least, or Linux's... depends from which side you are looking at it. With Steam Play there are no idiosyncracies at all, you have Steam installed, you click 'play' and the games run fine as one is used to.</p><p></p><p>With respect, apart from not considering Linux as a gaming platform many -and that is the problem- including Zen consider also that Microsoft does not use telemetry with Windows 10 that spies on you 24/7 and which can't be disabled, that even government agencies can't tell for sure what exactly is being transmitted, that it wasn't silently backported to Windows 7, 8 & 8.1 as well, that Microsoft became a monopoly by fair means and not by stealing someone's OS (CP/M), not by threatening OEMs to include IE, not by mafia tactics (death threats) against officials of Netscape, not sabotaging other browsers and other "office" applications with ActiveX etc, not breaching contracts like Java, OS/2 and all things <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish" target="_blank">"Embrace, extend, extinguish"</a> and not being multiple times convicted with fines worth billions for monopoly and predatory tactics.</p><p></p><p>So the above -comically tragic affecting Zen employees and bosses as developers/users/gamers as well- , in other words Zen's arrogant & ignorant refusal of protecting my (and their) hobby from known spyware (not to mention being forced to cope up with the added bloat/mess on top of the previous with every "new" Windows NT iteration (kernel, registry, disk space & memory consumption, UWP apps, forced updates & reboots plagued with all kind of problems) and practically the stagnation of the desktop environment for over 20 years), despite having all the tools already -Steam, Proton, OpenGL, Vulkan (which is faster and better coded than DX12), some of them already used for their Linux-Android ports, as well as the fact that lesser studios with lesser manpower and lesser funds, as well as competitors like Zaccaria, Pro Pinball Ultra, Pinball Wicked, partially Pinball Arcade, support Linux natively already (and in the worst case scenario through Proton), and hearing as an excuse after all of those that "the user base is too small" when in fact you are the one responsible for this viscious circle, backed up by ignorant cheerleaders behaving like the PC is another "closed system", a console, systems that Zen loves as it is proven by their logic of the lowest common denominator (uniform UI, non-customizability for the PC, idiotic reason to not have Steam cards as the top of the cream), Xbox, PS4, Switch, Arcade1UP, otherwise called "consolitis", all those made me lose every respect about Zen as a company, despite admiring Peter's pinball physics. Maybe Stadia -which is running on Debian Linux with Vulkan, not DirectX- and could be the next-gen thing Mel was talking about will force Zen change its narrow mind, who knows, until then, farewell. </p><p></p><p>I'd suggest you all give the M$-OS a second thought though after reading a bit about its disgraceful history, it's worth ditching it alone for the new exciting things you can learn with Linux and being part of a community.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pinfan7, post: 294541, member: 7683"] "Almost" means 99% problem-free regarding the core gameplay experience with 1% various quirks of minor importance, if it is done natively it runs flawless. Linux is a perfectly viable gaming platform nowadays with Steam (Valve having done a tremendous work in the last years with Proton (which is Steam Play) and not only) and Lutris (with which you can play Blizzard games flawless), and lots of devs supporting it as it is proven by the number of Steam games supported (>11.000) and educational videos sprawling around in youtube praising Linux gaming [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T_-HMkgxt0&pbjreload=101[/url]. , and with Linux distros supporting gaming out of the box in mind, with 1-click-install including Steam, codecs and device drivers done in a couple of minutes (vs. "half an hour" with W10), like Pop! OS, Manjaro, Mint et al. Fun fact is that older DirectX games run better on Linux than on Windows 10, which is... an accomplishment by M$ to say the least, or Linux's... depends from which side you are looking at it. With Steam Play there are no idiosyncracies at all, you have Steam installed, you click 'play' and the games run fine as one is used to. With respect, apart from not considering Linux as a gaming platform many -and that is the problem- including Zen consider also that Microsoft does not use telemetry with Windows 10 that spies on you 24/7 and which can't be disabled, that even government agencies can't tell for sure what exactly is being transmitted, that it wasn't silently backported to Windows 7, 8 & 8.1 as well, that Microsoft became a monopoly by fair means and not by stealing someone's OS (CP/M), not by threatening OEMs to include IE, not by mafia tactics (death threats) against officials of Netscape, not sabotaging other browsers and other "office" applications with ActiveX etc, not breaching contracts like Java, OS/2 and all things [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish"]"Embrace, extend, extinguish"[/URL] and not being multiple times convicted with fines worth billions for monopoly and predatory tactics. So the above -comically tragic affecting Zen employees and bosses as developers/users/gamers as well- , in other words Zen's arrogant & ignorant refusal of protecting my (and their) hobby from known spyware (not to mention being forced to cope up with the added bloat/mess on top of the previous with every "new" Windows NT iteration (kernel, registry, disk space & memory consumption, UWP apps, forced updates & reboots plagued with all kind of problems) and practically the stagnation of the desktop environment for over 20 years), despite having all the tools already -Steam, Proton, OpenGL, Vulkan (which is faster and better coded than DX12), some of them already used for their Linux-Android ports, as well as the fact that lesser studios with lesser manpower and lesser funds, as well as competitors like Zaccaria, Pro Pinball Ultra, Pinball Wicked, partially Pinball Arcade, support Linux natively already (and in the worst case scenario through Proton), and hearing as an excuse after all of those that "the user base is too small" when in fact you are the one responsible for this viscious circle, backed up by ignorant cheerleaders behaving like the PC is another "closed system", a console, systems that Zen loves as it is proven by their logic of the lowest common denominator (uniform UI, non-customizability for the PC, idiotic reason to not have Steam cards as the top of the cream), Xbox, PS4, Switch, Arcade1UP, otherwise called "consolitis", all those made me lose every respect about Zen as a company, despite admiring Peter's pinball physics. Maybe Stadia -which is running on Debian Linux with Vulkan, not DirectX- and could be the next-gen thing Mel was talking about will force Zen change its narrow mind, who knows, until then, farewell. I'd suggest you all give the M$-OS a second thought though after reading a bit about its disgraceful history, it's worth ditching it alone for the new exciting things you can learn with Linux and being part of a community. [/QUOTE]
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