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<blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 285235" data-attributes="member: 134"><p><strong><em>Here's the summary after playing the app for 7 days...</em></strong></p><p></p><p>I started with 54 coins, 7 days later I had 99</p><p>My ticket count started at 15,195 and finished the week at 8505. In that time I upgraded two tables to 3 stars and lost a lot of tickets to Pro and Premium challenges</p><p>Level 23 to start, level 29 now</p><p></p><p><u>Table Parts</u></p><p></p><p>Theatre of Magic 14/100 for level 4 upgrade</p><p>Champion Pub 40/50 for level 3 upgrade</p><p>Safe Cracker 13/100 for level 4 upgrade</p><p></p><p>As you can see, in 7 days and only collecting parts for those 3 tables, I've come a long way. By next week I should have all 3 ready for max upgrade, coins being the only thing slowing me down.</p><p></p><p><u>The Value of Pro and Premium Challenges</u></p><p></p><p>I've been asked a couple times now if Premium challenge is worth the 200 coins. The short answer is no, not until you are only missing the full upgrade to 2 or 3 tables. Now for the long answer.</p><p></p><p>The Premium challenge has the highest goal scores needed of any challenge, as it should. I only completed the 15 star goal 1 day out of 7. I missed the 10 star goal 3 times. 5 minute challenge happened 4 times, 1 Ball twice, and Survival once. When it comes to rewards, the good is that you'll earn large parts packs. 5 parts was the norm, which is really nice. Ticket packs tended to be between 40 and 75, which while high in general is way low considering how much it costs to play. Pro challenge is 15 tickets for attempt, and Premium is an insane 25. What the hell did I spend 200 coins for if I then have to pay each game?!</p><p></p><p>I'm not kidding when I say these two challenges are ticket pits. Here's how many I lost on each day <strong>625/790/580/30/185/45</strong> I didn't play them on day 1, and I started limiting my attempts the last 3.</p><p></p><p>If you are looking for flipper and ball trail card flips, this is the place too. Equally annoying is on Premium challenge level 5 is always missing the far right card to flip.</p><p></p><p><u>Score Goal Increases</u></p><p></p><p>One question people had was if the goals needed were somehow getting harder as they leveled up. Two other people are collecting these scores with me, and both have had matching score values to mine even though we are on different levels. Point requirements do increase from Basic to Advanced to Pro to Premium. For example, if you are playing AFM in survival, here are the points needed at each level through Pro...</p><p></p><p><strong>5 STAR</strong> 750/850/950 million</p><p><strong>10 STAR</strong> 1.95/2.25/2.55 billion</p><p><strong>15 STAR</strong> 2.3/4.2/4.8 billion</p><p></p><p>That's the only table I have that I can compare like that, but that's essentially going to happen across all of them. Some of the point increases between star levels are quite shocking though. On Getaway Premium 1 ball challenge, it was 40 million for 5 stars and then a whopping 128 million for 10. Meanwhile over on Safe Cracker in basic survival, for 10 stars you need 450,000 points and for 15 stars...450,000 points. I mean, what?</p><p></p><p><u>Where Are The Coins?</u></p><p></p><p>We all know coins are the most valuable of rewards. They seem to be distributed through all the challenges, and there doesn't seem to be a noticeable increase in the Pro or Premium challenge like there is in table parts. This might also be because I'm not getting to the 15 star goals. I also haven't flipped those cards that cost a coin, so maybe the good drops are hiding behind those? The best flip I've had was for 4 coins, and that was only once in Pro 15 star. Once I've secured all my upgrades, maybe I'll start burning through them to get those 15 star Premium rewards and see if there's an increase at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shutyertrap, post: 285235, member: 134"] [B][I]Here's the summary after playing the app for 7 days...[/I][/B] I started with 54 coins, 7 days later I had 99 My ticket count started at 15,195 and finished the week at 8505. In that time I upgraded two tables to 3 stars and lost a lot of tickets to Pro and Premium challenges Level 23 to start, level 29 now [U]Table Parts[/U] Theatre of Magic 14/100 for level 4 upgrade Champion Pub 40/50 for level 3 upgrade Safe Cracker 13/100 for level 4 upgrade As you can see, in 7 days and only collecting parts for those 3 tables, I've come a long way. By next week I should have all 3 ready for max upgrade, coins being the only thing slowing me down. [U]The Value of Pro and Premium Challenges[/U] I've been asked a couple times now if Premium challenge is worth the 200 coins. The short answer is no, not until you are only missing the full upgrade to 2 or 3 tables. Now for the long answer. The Premium challenge has the highest goal scores needed of any challenge, as it should. I only completed the 15 star goal 1 day out of 7. I missed the 10 star goal 3 times. 5 minute challenge happened 4 times, 1 Ball twice, and Survival once. When it comes to rewards, the good is that you'll earn large parts packs. 5 parts was the norm, which is really nice. Ticket packs tended to be between 40 and 75, which while high in general is way low considering how much it costs to play. Pro challenge is 15 tickets for attempt, and Premium is an insane 25. What the hell did I spend 200 coins for if I then have to pay each game?! I'm not kidding when I say these two challenges are ticket pits. Here's how many I lost on each day [B]625/790/580/30/185/45[/B] I didn't play them on day 1, and I started limiting my attempts the last 3. If you are looking for flipper and ball trail card flips, this is the place too. Equally annoying is on Premium challenge level 5 is always missing the far right card to flip. [U]Score Goal Increases[/U] One question people had was if the goals needed were somehow getting harder as they leveled up. Two other people are collecting these scores with me, and both have had matching score values to mine even though we are on different levels. Point requirements do increase from Basic to Advanced to Pro to Premium. For example, if you are playing AFM in survival, here are the points needed at each level through Pro... [B]5 STAR[/B] 750/850/950 million [B]10 STAR[/B] 1.95/2.25/2.55 billion [B]15 STAR[/B] 2.3/4.2/4.8 billion That's the only table I have that I can compare like that, but that's essentially going to happen across all of them. Some of the point increases between star levels are quite shocking though. On Getaway Premium 1 ball challenge, it was 40 million for 5 stars and then a whopping 128 million for 10. Meanwhile over on Safe Cracker in basic survival, for 10 stars you need 450,000 points and for 15 stars...450,000 points. I mean, what? [U]Where Are The Coins?[/U] We all know coins are the most valuable of rewards. They seem to be distributed through all the challenges, and there doesn't seem to be a noticeable increase in the Pro or Premium challenge like there is in table parts. This might also be because I'm not getting to the 15 star goals. I also haven't flipped those cards that cost a coin, so maybe the good drops are hiding behind those? The best flip I've had was for 4 coins, and that was only once in Pro 15 star. Once I've secured all my upgrades, maybe I'll start burning through them to get those 15 star Premium rewards and see if there's an increase at all. [/QUOTE]
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