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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 283780" data-attributes="member: 134">I've stated this before, in that I am exactly the type of person that refuses to pay for games on mobile. I already have all the tables of Zen, Zacc, and TPA on my PC, so double dipping holds no interest to me. I also view mobile gaming more as a casual experience and not something I want to invest funds into. So even though Zen isn't getting money out of me from Zen coin purchases, they have probably gotten what they needed from me through videos I've viewed. I've actually tried 3 different apps because of those videos, I don't know if Zen gets extra from click installs but I'd bet the data exists at the least. In my conversations with Zen, they have said that the vast majority of mobile players fall more into my camp than the "just let me pay for it" camp, and that data comes from what they saw with all their other pinball apps (which you'll notice all feature something unique in how they are presented). The Williams Pinball app is essentially the culmination of all that data, and more than likely is what the next generation of the mobile Zen Pinball app will be like (they want it to be close in experience to what FX3 is on console/PC).The dual currency thing, again I think I'm kinda immune to it as I've seen it so often. In our last podcast, I mentioned how the psychological game of buying a pack that contains more coin than you actually need is also nothing new. It's why swipe cards you load up at an arcade are ideal, why tokens were popular, because inevitably you go home with extra, and there's only one place you can spend it. Vegas does this too with their slot machines by letting you have credits on the machine rather than constantly having to feed it coins. Feeding coins, you are innately aware of spending money each and every time. Credits on the other hand, those are easy to spend! Going in with eyes wide open, I tend to make a new game of trying to make it out with a perfect zero sum balance.My gripe with all of those games that use dual currency is that conversions are only one way. So real money converts to diamonds, diamonds can be used to buy coin packs, and coins are what you can earn (slowly) by grinding. I've always wanted the ability to spend those coins on diamonds though, as some games ONLY let you do certain things with that upper currency. In Zen's case, you still can't spend tickets to buy Zen coins, but at least now and then you get gifted those Zen coins. The same thing happened in the Skillz app (while playing FarSight's Pinball Tournaments) where by grinding the free play practice tournaments, I kept earning achievements which gifts you a prize. I had a few of those gift me a total of $3 for use in the cash games. Since you can't withdraw the money until you've earned over $50, this acted as a free trial like what casinos do by comping you some chips. I have turned that money into over $50 through play in that app, Zen's eSports edition of pinball, and now the Williams Pinball app. I do hope that when you do write your article about the Williams App that proper focus is given to the game itself. I've had not one issue with frame rates or touch controls on my iPhone 7 Plus, though I know people have been experiencing issues on various iPads. Multiple people in this thread have also maxed out the tables in relatively the same amount of time I have, so that would be a good counter point to bring up compared to your unlocking experience. I by no means want to denigrate people's opinions on the game, I just don't want those opinions to be viewed as absolute fact.</blockquote>

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