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<blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 286279" data-attributes="member: 134"><p>They have an entire division devoted to mobile gaming. Mobile is not taking away from the pinball division, they are separate but then share when needed. I'll see if I can dig up some more info about this to maybe ease your mind. Also, Zen has data from all the other mobile pinball apps they've put out, and I'm sure if it wasn't lucrative, they wouldn't have made it such a priority to have a mobile release as quick as they did. Lord knows they've been collecting just from me with all the video ads I've had to watch while playing the daily challenges.</p><p></p><p>I don't get how you think a licensed original table is more bread and butter than an emulated table. Do you have any idea how many more people the Williams tables have brought to the Zen platform? When someone found the download numbers of games on Steam a while back, TPA had over half a million original downloads compared to Zen's 60+ grand. People in this very forum that hated Zen originals in FX2 have said that they not only bought the new Williams stuff, but have been selectively buying originals now too within FX3. You hook people with the nostalgia, and then sell that back catalog!</p><p></p><p>It will be trickier for profits when it comes to licensed Williams stuff, same as if they do indeed get Stern, but not if they run with the idea of using the license further to make original tables to go along with those. </p><p></p><p>Worrying about Zen expanding and not having proper competition is like people that worried when Amazon was going to sell more than books. They expanded to meet and create demand, and then expanded to create even more demand. So long as a company is willing to reinvest, it's all good. Zen has stated and proven they'll do just that. After all, when TPA first came on the scene, Zen was about the same size studio. They now dwarf FarSight 5:1 with employees.</p><p></p><p>Also, regarding core physics still being tweaked...Zen had them 97% dialed in as far as I was concerned, they just needed more feedback from actual users. There's stuff happening in beta right now to further close the gap. FarSight continually changed and tuned tables during its entire run. I'm happy there's a drive to get it right, and with digital pinball, getting it perfect is an unobtainable goal as there simply is no way to perfectly match all the variations in physics a physical machine has, let alone the tactile sensation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shutyertrap, post: 286279, member: 134"] They have an entire division devoted to mobile gaming. Mobile is not taking away from the pinball division, they are separate but then share when needed. I'll see if I can dig up some more info about this to maybe ease your mind. Also, Zen has data from all the other mobile pinball apps they've put out, and I'm sure if it wasn't lucrative, they wouldn't have made it such a priority to have a mobile release as quick as they did. Lord knows they've been collecting just from me with all the video ads I've had to watch while playing the daily challenges. I don't get how you think a licensed original table is more bread and butter than an emulated table. Do you have any idea how many more people the Williams tables have brought to the Zen platform? When someone found the download numbers of games on Steam a while back, TPA had over half a million original downloads compared to Zen's 60+ grand. People in this very forum that hated Zen originals in FX2 have said that they not only bought the new Williams stuff, but have been selectively buying originals now too within FX3. You hook people with the nostalgia, and then sell that back catalog! It will be trickier for profits when it comes to licensed Williams stuff, same as if they do indeed get Stern, but not if they run with the idea of using the license further to make original tables to go along with those. Worrying about Zen expanding and not having proper competition is like people that worried when Amazon was going to sell more than books. They expanded to meet and create demand, and then expanded to create even more demand. So long as a company is willing to reinvest, it's all good. Zen has stated and proven they'll do just that. After all, when TPA first came on the scene, Zen was about the same size studio. They now dwarf FarSight 5:1 with employees. Also, regarding core physics still being tweaked...Zen had them 97% dialed in as far as I was concerned, they just needed more feedback from actual users. There's stuff happening in beta right now to further close the gap. FarSight continually changed and tuned tables during its entire run. I'm happy there's a drive to get it right, and with digital pinball, getting it perfect is an unobtainable goal as there simply is no way to perfectly match all the variations in physics a physical machine has, let alone the tactile sensation. [/QUOTE]
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