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Zen Studios alters classic pinball art to protect family-friendly rating
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<blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 280277" data-attributes="member: 134"><p>My thoughts as seen in a Twitter response:</p><p></p><p>"If there’s one thing that sends me into a tizzy faster than anything, it’s presenting logical fact based evidence and having it dismissed by unfounded hypothetical hysteria. I’ve followed MPAA ratings battles in the past and they are equally infuriating. An example I just used the other day; Robocop had to remove 9 seconds of ED-209 turning that exec into a meatsicle to get an ‘R’. Without the 9 sec, the scene is horrifically violent. With, it becomes comically absurd. So the edit actually had the opposite effect the MPAA wanted. There’s also the old standby of how violence in movies is always more acceptable than consensual sex. You are allowed 3 hip thrusts for sex before it becomes NC-17, but can filet the skin off a naked girl all you want. Watch ‘This Film Is Not Yet Rated’ and get frustrated. Companies cater to the perceived threat of offending a couple of people (who likely were never going to be customers anyways) rather than pleasing their core. If you can just ride out the initial outrage, you’ll be left alone as the outrage moves to something new."</p><p></p><p>Remember when people were worried about the 'children' regarding The Simpsons and South Park? They didn't cave and now 20 years later South Park can do or say practically anything and it's just accepted. Countless shows have been threatened with boycotts over language, suggestive content, or too much flesh. 'I Dream of Jeanie' caused an uproar over Barbera Eden's belly button. 'The Brady Bunch' (yeah) dared to be the first show to feature a married couple with only one bed, and it showed them in it together! Point is, ratings are based on whatever the social norms of right now are. Zen needs to submit whatever the perceived worst offenders in pinball are and see what the ESRB comes down with, and then all other table questions will be moot on that front. If being concerned what other licencors might object to, and we all know Disney is the only real threat here, Zen needs to have that conversation with them, using the same tables presented to the ESRB. Find out what the definitive line is, don't guess. That can then be presented to the customers and the whole debate can be put to rest.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shutyertrap, post: 280277, member: 134"] My thoughts as seen in a Twitter response: "If there’s one thing that sends me into a tizzy faster than anything, it’s presenting logical fact based evidence and having it dismissed by unfounded hypothetical hysteria. I’ve followed MPAA ratings battles in the past and they are equally infuriating. An example I just used the other day; Robocop had to remove 9 seconds of ED-209 turning that exec into a meatsicle to get an ‘R’. Without the 9 sec, the scene is horrifically violent. With, it becomes comically absurd. So the edit actually had the opposite effect the MPAA wanted. There’s also the old standby of how violence in movies is always more acceptable than consensual sex. You are allowed 3 hip thrusts for sex before it becomes NC-17, but can filet the skin off a naked girl all you want. Watch ‘This Film Is Not Yet Rated’ and get frustrated. Companies cater to the perceived threat of offending a couple of people (who likely were never going to be customers anyways) rather than pleasing their core. If you can just ride out the initial outrage, you’ll be left alone as the outrage moves to something new." Remember when people were worried about the 'children' regarding The Simpsons and South Park? They didn't cave and now 20 years later South Park can do or say practically anything and it's just accepted. Countless shows have been threatened with boycotts over language, suggestive content, or too much flesh. 'I Dream of Jeanie' caused an uproar over Barbera Eden's belly button. 'The Brady Bunch' (yeah) dared to be the first show to feature a married couple with only one bed, and it showed them in it together! Point is, ratings are based on whatever the social norms of right now are. Zen needs to submit whatever the perceived worst offenders in pinball are and see what the ESRB comes down with, and then all other table questions will be moot on that front. If being concerned what other licencors might object to, and we all know Disney is the only real threat here, Zen needs to have that conversation with them, using the same tables presented to the ESRB. Find out what the definitive line is, don't guess. That can then be presented to the customers and the whole debate can be put to rest. [/QUOTE]
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