iOS Version 1.2.7 Discussion And Feedback

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Please post your iOS version 1.2.7 feedback here!

If you want to report bugs or other problems with this version, please use THIS THREAD and follow the guidelines in the first post.
 
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The good:
- Detailed release notes / change log. This is great!

The not so good:
- The release notes are obviously incomplete. Six tables are listed as updated, but details are only given for four.
- The new "Invert Nudge" and "Event Camera" options are accessed via the Table Options menu, but are not saved per table. i.e., if you change these options for one table you're changing them for all tables. (This is also true for every other entry in the Table Options Menu, except for the Tilt setting.) If the intention is for these to be system-wide settings, they should be accessed from the main Options menu, no?
 
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clembo2021

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The other 2 tables weren't updated per se. They were updated last patch, but since they didn't change the version number, you had to delete them to update. Now that they updated the version number it will update for everyone.
 
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clembo2021 said:
The other 2 tables weren't updated per se. They were updated last patch, but since they didn't change the version number, you had to delete them to update. Now that they updated the version number it will update for everyone.
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Oh yeah, I remember that now... In that case the release notes should reflect the "version number only" change.
 
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DeeEff said:
- The new "Invert Nudge" and "Event Camera" options are accessed via the Table Options menu, but are not saved per table. i.e., if you change these options for one table you're changing them for all tables. (This is also true for every other entry in the Table Options Menu, except for the Tilt setting.) If the intention is for these to be system-wide settings, they should be accessed from the main Options menu, no?
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I was just going to post the same thoughts. If changes to options in a specific table's menu affect all other tables then I wish FS would move them up to the main menu instead. The way they've done it is confusing and counterintuitive.
 
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I posted in the wrong thread about this version and ball stuttering i was having. Seems to be gone now. Don't know what it was but i don't think you need to worry about that. I just had the ball kind of freeze once more in gorgar. Playing as much as i can to reproduce, so far ok. Also seeing many visual improvements.

I think it's a good update. Appreciate the work again.
 
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pinbot said:
I posted in the wrong thread about this version and ball stuttering i was having. Seems to be gone now. Don't know what it was but i don't think you need to worry about that. I just had the ball kind of freeze once more in gorgar. Playing as much as i can to reproduce, so far ok. Also seeing many visual improvements.

I think it's a good update. Appreciate the work again.
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I've been getting random ball stuttering since, I wanna say last update. The one before this one.

There is absolutely no ryhme or reason to it, it just happens. Very seldomly, sometimes during the same session, sometimes not at all. And I've had it on many different tables. But I think Dr. Dude. in particular did it to me a little more frequently.

It barely happens but it's so strange. Iphone 4S btw. And before people ask, nothing running in the background no text messages or stuff like that obviously. Kinda a bummer that it's starting and I have zero intentions of getting an Iphone 5 any time soon. Wonder what is up with this? I hope it doesn't get worse.
 
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The shake to nudge settings not saving bug is fixed! Also...

This is the first update I don't have to do the "Worf Maneuver" to restore TZ and STTNG!
 
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DeeEff said:
The good:
- Detailed release notes / change log. This is great!

The not so good:
- The release notes are obviously incomplete. Six tables are listed as updated, but details are only given for four.
- The new "Invert Nudge" and "Event Camera" options are accessed via the Table Options menu, but are not saved per table. i.e., if you change these options for one table you're changing them for all tables. (This is also true for every other entry in the Table Options Menu, except for the Tilt setting.) If the intention is for these to be system-wide settings, they should be accessed from the main Options menu, no?
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Sorry but what is event camera?
 
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Patrick said:
Sorry but what is event camera?
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When the camera view zooms in on a special event. Like the Mixmaster in Dr. Dude or the lower level playfield in Black Hole.

Sometimes there are play issues after the event ends so users have asked for the option to disable the event camera.
 
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Tokyo Rose

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Think I've found the right thread for this question. :) My question also regarding the event cam seems to have been answered above-thanks-but I am wondering now if someone could clearly explain just what is meant by ' Invert Nudge ' ? Also, would appreciate some comments from other IOS users as to their impressions of the current state of shake nudging v.s. other nudging styles-especially on the iPad. Ultimately, I hope that shake will will become sensitive and accurate enough to use in most cases, as I still find the coordination required for an effective touch/swipe awkward and often too slow to save or guide numerous balls. Shaking would be preferable for me eventually, at least.

Finally, if it isn't too much trouble, would love to see a brief video of one of you PA wizards out there showing us your nudging techniques on tablets. Would be a great tutorial and very helpful. What say ... ?:cool:
 
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Kolchak357

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Invert nudge is just what it sounds like. If you touch nudge on the left side of the screen the ball goes to the right, but if you would prefer the ball to move to the left when you touch nudge on the left then you can can change the invert nudge setting. If you like it the way it currently set then you don't have to touch it.

They are working on improving the shake nudging. It works just ok in portrait mode but poorly on landscape mode. Touch nudging is still the better option for more consistent results.
As for gameplay videos, I will leave that to the folks with the really high scores.
 
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Tokyo Rose said:
Think I've found the right thread for this question. :) My question also regarding the event cam seems to have been answered above-thanks-but I am wondering now if someone could clearly explain just what is meant by ' Invert Nudge ' ? Also, would appreciate some comments from other IOS users as to their impressions of the current state of shake nudging v.s. other nudging styles-especially on the iPad. Ultimately, I hope that shake will will become sensitive and accurate enough to use in most cases, as I still find the coordination required for an effective touch/swipe awkward and often too slow to save or guide numerous balls. Shaking would be preferable for me eventually, at least.
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"Invert Nudge" reverses the direction the table is pushed when you nudge left/right - try it both ways and stick with whichever one feels better.

See http://digitalpinballfans.com/showthread.php/4315-Phew-Nudging for more iOS nudging discussion...

I'm a touch nudger - shake is too imprecise, swipe takes too much time away from flippers. And I run "Invert Nudge: On" as this allows a quick right nudge tap then left flip (or vice versa) to avoid SDTM balls. YMMV, of course.
 
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clembo2021

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I am wondering now if someone could clearly explain just what is meant by ' Invert Nudge ' ?
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Normally with touchscreen nudging when you use the right nudge, it's actually nudging from the left side of the table in order to force the ball to move to the left. This is fine and intuitive for playing on a tablet, but if you've played a lot of real pinball, you'll tend to want to nudge like you do on a real table. So in that case you'd turn off inverse nudging so a left nudge on the tablet makes the ball go to the left.
 
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Tokyo Rose

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Wow, so quick with the responses! Many thanks to all the above for the helpful feedback-you guys are awesome. :cool:

I, too, find touch nudging the most effective so far, but often start playing TPA using flippers at the bottom of the screen ( as though it were an actual machine I guess) whereas to touch nudge quickly and effectively, one needs to play the flippers at least 30% of the way up the screen, which still feels a bit awkward for me still, and my thumbs keep slipping down lower as I play.:p Oh ,well...something to work on. I am certainly looking forward to when shake nudging is more effective.

Any takers on a nudging techniques video, guys ? Anyone ? :)
 
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