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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shutyertrap" data-source="post: 220576" data-attributes="member: 134">Bullying? Did I make a threat in my statements? Did I name call, or insult the intelligence of that individual? I think not. And I don't mind negative comments, except when they are completely ignoring certain truths that are readily apparent. People at times forget that this site is not run by, operated, or owned by FarSight. Some of the developers come here, and we are thankful for that. True complaints that FarSight will read and possibly respond to, try visiting their Facebook page. Send an email to their customer support. This site is not the dumping ground of grief for those that want FarSight to read. As for over promising... The only promise FarSight makes is at the start of a season when a pass is made available. That is, there will be 10 tables made available. They have never promised a season would include a new UI, or cab support, or DX11, different physics, ball spin, or online multiplayer. They only promise working tables. This is why the number one thing we most harp about is the bug list. For those buying individual tables, each one is available for free demo trial before purchase so that you know exactly what you are getting beforehand. Don't like the way a table looks or plays? Don't buy it, wait for an update. I'm not making excuses for FarSight. What I am saying is, the product is significantly better than it was 4 years ago with those first 4 tables. And I, like many others, were quite happy with those at the time. There have been some huge stumbles by FarSight, but the game has always been playable and never less than what it started as.NoEx took more than 3 days to get his camera mod up and working. He's put in a lot of hard work to make it function and has been very humble about it. Others are now joining in as a labor of love. The professionals are busy making the game work with new content monthly, for no fewer than 7 operating systems. They not only have to make the new table work, but ensure a line of code in it doesn't break any of the other tables (something that has happened in more than one instance). This isn't some huge team working on each platform. It's more like one guy for PC, one for iOS, and one for Android, in over simplified terms. If FarSight didn't value the community, they wouldn't bother interacting with us. They wouldn't be logged on to this site, they wouldn't respond on Facebook, and they sure as hell wouldn't grant interviews to guys like me who months earlier ripped them a new one in his podcast.It reminds me of the Star Wars community. Many have been quite vocal about their displeasure with Lucas continually tweaking and changing the films. The inevitable "my childhood has been raped" comment always crops up, but it doesn't do any good, does it? Then you got the guys out there who are painstakingly reassembling the films to a version of their original glory, or making their own subtle fixes by building and filming their own models, making matte paintings, all sorts of things. And the question pops up, if some dude in his garage can do this, why can't ILM? And the answer is, ILM has a million other things on their plate to move forward with, and (at the time) a boss who honestly didn't think anything wrong with the new changes. The guys in the garage, they're rising to the challenge and creating one themselves that eventually has the effect of embarrassing the big time film makers. That has the potential to spur an 'official' response and maybe even a 'non special edition' special edition than the guy holding onto his VHS copy screaming how Han shot first and he'll not be buying any other version than that.</blockquote>

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